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Created by: pj_456

4/21/12 @ 9:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If a member cannot afford to buy credits should he/she stay off the site until they can purchase credits again? Some may feel like a freeloader hangin in a room and not being able to tip.

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Created by: toppgun

4/21/12 @ 10:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I understand that feeling PJ. I dont have an answer for that...but i am sure your regular models you visit may have answers. :twocents

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Created by: Jake Trenton

4/21/12 @ 10:53am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I think the one thing most models would ask of someone with no credits is that they not request or beg for something for which others would normally pay. :twocents

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Created by: ballycallan

4/21/12 @ 12:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My opinion would be that if you have no funds/credits of course its still fine to pop online to say hi to the models and have a little chat , I don't think you should abuse it though and stay for hours on end, and certainly should not hog the chat

Regards
Bally

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Created by: trunder

4/21/12 @ 1:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Id say no, they should NOT stay away. This is a place that should be fun for everyone, even broke-ass fools (like me! :orglaugh

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I think the one thing most models would ask of someone with no credits is that they not request or beg for something for which others would normally pay. :twocents

Well said!! :guitar

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Created by: phil_usa

4/21/12 @ 1:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...I am in agreement with Bally, stay in the system but don't overstay

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Created by: Luk A

4/21/12 @ 1:45pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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freeloaders and beggars are more than welcome in my room....when i'm in bann mood or off line

@ PJ Nice and funny people should always be on line

@toppgun Cough up the money

@Ballycallan You are my hero

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Created by: Izzi

4/21/12 @ 2:59pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I have always told everyone in my room countless time you may stay at the bar regardless if you have credits or not. Its about fun here. PJ I have always told you that. A free loader is a guy that tries to get something off other peoples credits. For example....you tip me 500 credits just for the sake of giving..then some guy goes..'' You should blow your load now cause he gave you 500 credits.'' Coming from the guy that never gives anything. Thats a freee loader. Your a friend bro. Your wallet dosnt define you.

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Created by: kheldarxy

4/21/12 @ 4:13pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If a member cannot afford to buy credits should he/she stay off the site until they can purchase credits again? Some may feel like a freeloader hangin in a room and not being able to tip.

As others have said, people who cannot tip shouldn't request things others are paying for. Having said that, hanging around in open chat is a different thing. There are many ways to contribute to open chat, and one of them is by just being you and being there. Helping make a room a place others want to visit and hang out in provides a huge benefit since some will tip or go private, and the only reason they may be there is because they enjoyed the conversation that you were a part of. I know some of the models you visit and I equally know they are sincere when they say they want you in there.

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Created by: Jonathan Phoenix

4/21/12 @ 5:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I think that for all of us (models, members, and guests) the constant draw to the site is the fact that you get to establish friendships and get to know people as individuals. Trust me, models are grateful for your support but we also appreciate good company.

As far as I am concerned that is what defines a great model from those that quickly fizzle. Models who simply sit there and look pretty get dull very quickly. I enjoy a little eye candy as much as anyone else, but I like my candy to be sweet and tasty, not just sticky and tempting.

Feel free to stop by my chat room any time you like.

Cheers,
Jonathan

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Created by: Paul Atreides

4/21/12 @ 6:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Freeloading is a state of mind. You can come to this site willing to give whatever you think this service we provide is worth, or you come here trying to get models to lower their prices as much as possible, to the point of it being unsustainable for the amount of work full time models put in on this website.

Freeloaders sometimes have credits, too. It's not a matter of how much you give, but your thought process in giving it.

It's one part in a spectrum of behaviors present all over Flirt4Free and the internet as a whole. Some people, and maybe not even some people, but, rather, people SOMETIMES see cyberspace communication as a way to let their insecurities run wild.

You are not one of those people, PJ. If you're here for positive fun that makes you happy and gets your rocks off, then you're alright in my book. That's the purpose of this website.

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Created by: pj_456

4/21/12 @ 6:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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don't overstay

In your opinion how long is overstayed?

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Created by: Johnson Wood

4/21/12 @ 6:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Amen Brother

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Created by: martyfromnewzealand

4/21/12 @ 7:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If a member cannot afford to buy credits should he/she stay off the site until they can purchase credits again? Some may feel like a freeloader hangin in a room and not being able to tip.

I cannot afford to buy credits either. I enjoy the company of many of the models (Izzi, Derek, Demonte Jonathan, Andretti to name but a few) they all know my situation and are fine with it. I really appreciate that. There is also a benefit that goes with it and that is earning "boost points" and it's my opinion that they count just as much as tipping does. I send them to the models and hope that helps them just as much as a tip does.

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Created by: ballycallan

4/21/12 @ 8:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I cannot afford to buy credits either. I enjoy the company of many of the models (Izzi, Derek, Demonte Jonathan, Andretti to name but a few) they all know my situation and are fine with it. I really appreciate that. There is also a benefit that goes with it and that is earning "boost points" and it's my opinion that they count just as much as tipping does. I send them to the models and hope that helps them just as much as a tip does.

Boost points are just part of the flirt game , they help a model a little bit in terms of where they show in the main pages and as a small part of the rankings , BUT they in no way count as much as actual tipping or pvts . credits/tips = Actual Earnings for the model , Boost points are just part of the game with a very minimal redeption value for the model.

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Created by: homo_erectus

4/22/12 @ 3:24am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If a member cannot afford to buy credits should he/she stay off the site until they can purchase credits again? Some may feel like a freeloader hangin in a room and not being able to tip.

I can not always afford to buy credits. But I still visit the models chat rooms and the ones who know me don't mind. I never make a request though unlesss I tip. Sometimes I make joke requests but only with models who know me & know I'm just kidding. I think if only members who can afford credits all the time were the only ones alowed in the rooms well, there would be a lot less chat and it would be a lot less interesting

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Created by: anniefrombrisbane

4/22/12 @ 4:16am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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PJ .. you know the models you visit appreciate your support. ... credits or no credits ... i never have any credits to spend on here .. but the models i do visit, appreciate what i do for them with my promotion work .. we can't all have money to spend on here.. you have to know that Paul, Izzi etc.. appreciate you for your interaction with the room ..!!

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Created by: phil_usa

4/22/12 @ 11:05am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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In your opinion how long is overstayed?

You will know if you do...PJ you are not a freeloader

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Created by: ronnie-uk

4/22/12 @ 11:29am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: London, UK
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Good topic, PJ. Great to see comments here including those from top models. Pretty much agree with all the points made. :thumbsup

I don't know if it is worth adding that the site is called Flirt4Free, that VS positively encourage chat in the rooms and a lot of the rooms are open to gray users - who can't tip.

The freeloader issue seems to come into play in Party Chat. Models always know that when they offer Party Chat many members, with or without credits, will not tip because they can see the show for free. However, this is much less emotive now that models have the option of Group Chat.

Jake rightly mentioned that non-tippers shouldn't make show-for-tip type requests, and Izzi mentioned that non-tippers shouldn't demand that models respond to big tips from other tippers. (I think Annie made the same point in another topic).

Can I add that I really dislike it when non-tippers use the Lets Tip and other large emoticons. The worst case I encountered was when a non-tipper used Lets Tip about 10 times in Party Chat and repeatedly wiped off all the tips and the model's targets from the screen. When we tip, I think we all like the model and others to see it. It can also encourage more members to tip. These unpopular emoticons often have the opposite result. Just my :twocents

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Created by: Luk A

4/22/12 @ 2:38pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Momma says freeloader is as freeloader does

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