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Created by: didione

1/16/12 @ 8:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: lickau

1/16/12 @ 9:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Could one of the moderators/administrators give some guidance as to when they remove/delete posts that are put on here in good faith? Are there criteria that are followed? Thanks for the info, assuming this post isn't deleted also.

1 : that all see before they "Post your reply"
Remember, please be respectful in your posts and replies. Everyone comes here for entertainment, not to fight. Distasteful and/or aggressive posting could result in the removal of your posting privileges.

2 : If they locked a topic or deleted one - something was said that violated it above and a new topic close to the same appears very quickly

3 : Some posts are deleted because a member or model posted email , phone or other content that violates site policies .
F.A.Q. link that tells some below all pages not in a model's room

4 : Anything about money or pay seems to get deleted fast

5 : Write Customer service about any post and they can give you a more exact reply to a reason

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Created by: curiousone87

1/16/12 @ 9:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Could one of the moderators/administrators give some guidance as to when they remove/delete posts that are put on here in good faith? Are there criteria that are followed? Thanks for the info, assuming this post isn't deleted also.

I have seen your posts before they were deleted. I think a good rule of thumb is to not use the forums as a way of getting people hot and bothered on the negative aspects that may come about. There are many variables to the service and models alike, as in life things are not perfect.

If you are unhappy with a model then simply don't visit them any longer or better yet email them yourself if it concerns you.

This is a place where people come for fantasy and enjoyment not to be drama filled with negativity or accusations.

This next line you should see before making posts maybe you overlooked it.. "Remember, please be respectful in your posts and replies. Everyone comes here for entertainment, not to fight. Distasteful and/or aggressive posting could result in the removal of your posting privileges.
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Created by: didione

1/16/12 @ 11:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: lickau

1/16/12 @ 11:39pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for the response but I will just choose to disagree with your contention that my posts were in any way disrespectful or aggresive. But then that may be all in the mind of the posting person and I'll keep these vague guidelines in my thoughts in the future, if I decide to post again.

It is not MY contetion - it is the this site works .

I listed several reasons - best it to contact Customer Support direct and as soon as you can to get the most accurate answer .

Only the Admin who deletes or locks a post has THIER reason . :twocents

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Created by: ronnie-uk

1/17/12 @ 11:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I agree with Lickau here, didione. He has always given me excellent advice.

I should add that VS do not generally like to see topics criticising individual members or performers. I have had 2 topics pulled for this reason. Didn't like it at the time, and thought I was being perfectly fair and reasonable. On reflection I think VS were right - it is for them to decide what they think is best for the site.

Sometimes the concerns about an individual member or performer can highlight an issue which needs to be discussed. The Studio and Performers forum and the General Discussions forum are good forums for raising issues of concern to performers and VIP members respectively. They are more "private" than this very public forum.

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Created by: didione

1/17/12 @ 6:13pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: .jeffie.

1/17/12 @ 7:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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So to those who have legitimate complaints about the performers or the site management itself, don't bother to complain, it gets you nowhere!

:twocents

I suspect VS has something analagous to a "power score" for members

Members with a higher power score receive higher priority; members with a lower power score receive lower priority and may even be ignored

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Created by: cautious

1/17/12 @ 7:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Just to let the posters know who answered my previous post, I did send a complaint to customer service and they did not deign to respond. So to those who have legitimate complaints about the performers or the site management itself, don't bother to complain, it gets you nowhere!

I've actually experienced excellent customer service from VS. They have always responded promptly to any problems or complaints that I expressed to them via email or telephone.

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Created by: jasan

1/18/12 @ 5:27pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Looks like they deleted (censored) the Chris Hunt chain of discussion because they were afraid of where it was leading.

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Created by: didione

1/18/12 @ 8:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Jasun, the fact is the owners of the site made a lot of money when the two performers (Chris and Izzi) were in their duel on New Year's day. So it was stupid of me to think that they (the site owners/managers) would take action against a performer who was bringing in the bucks in a huge way.

One of the posters questioned whether I had enough status on the site, i.e., whether I had contributed a significant amount in order to have my complaint given consideration. I would guess that over the past two months I had spent between 1000 dollars and 1500 dollars on the site giving tips primarily to the performers. I also had a few privates thrown in there at times. I expect that this thread will also be deleted shortly, too bad the site doesn't care about their customers. I have to say I may not be around here much longer as a paying customer.

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Created by: imacumluvr

1/18/12 @ 9:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Looks like they deleted (censored) the Chris Hunt chain of discussion because they were afraid of where it was leading.

Of course they did. They can't allow anyone to let people know that the site's new "star" is a liar and a cheat, eh? oops .. now I guess they will delete my post too.

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Created by: bluke311

1/18/12 @ 9:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Of course they did. They can't allow anyone to let people know that the site's new "star" is a liar and a cheat, eh? oops .. now I guess they will delete my post too.

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That is one problem that I have with this site. They do not allow any kind of negative feedback on their models. If you look at the reviews of several models, & I have looked at several, you will find very few, if any, negative reviews even though they have a negative rating. I dont understand why they have that if they are going to censor out all the negative comments. I believe we as paying customers should have the right to know if a model is dishonest or disrespectful with their members, just like we as consumers have a right to know if a company has a product that is defective. The models on here represent the company & if they choose to not be honest and respectful of their members that may cause the company to lose customers.

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Created by: didione

1/18/12 @ 11:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well said, bluke. I think I have said more than enough on this topic. Good luck to all who want to put their heads in the sand and go along with the fantasy that all is right in f4f world. You might want to check out Disney since they have much the same ideal. :thumbsup

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Created by: asti

1/19/12 @ 12:04am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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They can't allow anyone to let people know that the site's new "star" is a liar and a cheat

I love it when fans of the pot call the kettle black. :orglaugh

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Created by: kheldarxy

1/19/12 @ 3:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I love it when fans of the pot call the kettle black. :orglaugh

The pot is working hard while the kettle is off blowing steam, or something.

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Created by: didione

1/19/12 @ 10:38am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well, posters 15 and 16 have me decidely confused as to what they are trying to say. Are you saying what???? It would be very helpful if you didn't speak in metaphors and put it into plain English what you mean. If this is disrespectful, so be it! The pot calling the kettle black generally means that someone is exhibiting the same behaviors that they are condemning elsewhere. Exactly how did the customers of the site cheat anyone out of anything?

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Created by: .jeffie.

1/19/12 @ 11:02am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane, Australia

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Isn't "decidedly confused" an oxymoron? :orglaugh

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Created by: imacumluvr

1/19/12 @ 1:14pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Isn't "decidedly confused" an oxymoron? :orglaugh

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