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Created by: fradi1

7/2/11 @ 11:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: ronnie-uk

7/2/11 @ 11:58pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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what a silly promo name, but if you want the best BANG for you credits.. check out Domenic_Prize ...
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I agree that Domenic is a lovely model. I think that William Haley is lovely too. I have a suspicion that you have created this new topic to promote Domenic as a response to the William Haley fan club topic.

I was most disappointed to see the following "reviews", both of which you added to a recent William Haley VOD:

Curiosity kills people, read any my reviews I take my vip seriously and try to give an honest review to anything, but i still find myself unable to do this with this model. William is a cute slender guy, I just don't agree with his Methods of promoting and acting.. I have visited his room and the way he comes across most times isn't a smart 18 year old.

I really try to review his clips honestly, and most time i dont bother saying anything, I know he is a popular model, but every time i see him i just loose any type of sexual desire. I KNOW he is verified 18 with the site, but to act and use props and purposefully trying to seem younger then that just is creepy to me. He looks like my brother at 13. and the whole set up the soccer props, the sideways hat, the curtains not matching the drapes just shows me intent.

There are some models that I see in the daily VODs that I am surprised that anyone would pay money to watch, but it is great that there are models here to suit all tastes. The models here are also fulfilling different types of sexual fantasies. I would not dream of posting a review to say that "when I see this model I lose any type of sexual desire". Much better to say nothing at all.

Adam Foxx gave good advice in his 20-point guide when he said he will not allow members to criticise other models in his room. In the spirit of that advice I would not want to criticise any model simply because they were not my type.

Just my :twocents

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Created by: fradi1

7/3/11 @ 12:32am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I was most disappointed to see the following "reviews", both of which you added to a recent William Haley VOD:

I'm sorry to DISAPPOINT you ronnie-uk, but your suspicions are 100% wrong. MY review and reply to newbie on the WH vod is my review of the clip and the model, I've been asked a few times times why i never reviewed any of his. I said he has a nice slender body, but I really feel the way he promotes himself and acts in his room is not a good thing and really a step below "fantasy" into a greyish area.

and that was almost a day between that review and the promo forum post I have made.
so your REALLY
:offtopic

I could care less for the Willliam Haley Fan Club or what his supporters do. I promoted Domenic because I really like him, Ive yet to spend a single credit on him due to some unfortunate finical problems.

sorry I don't have change for your :twocents

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Created by: alakazoo

7/3/11 @ 12:59am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I was surprised Fradi1 to read your comment on this forum. If I want to enter Domenic Prize room, I can find him under the 'Live Chat' tab when he is online. I don't need you to add a hyperlink to his room in the blog. If every member does that, the forums would be full packed of useless hyperlinks. There is a list of top performers updated on a regular basis, so any members can refer to it to reach out to the models that are performing well. Also, the first principle of this site if to have it open to anybody who wants to present themselves as models, what ever shape and looks they have. Also, the site is open to anybody who wants to be members, what ever their tastes and interests they have. Your comment on the 'looking too young' William Haley is not correct. I don't want to know which model turns you on, and who just doesn't do it for you. That doesn't benefits me at all. Usually, I check all the VOD available daily and see a lot of your comments which I found correct and useful most of the time. Adding a review on a model session should be done appropriately with good taste. This you seem to be doing well. On the other hand, there are enough offensive peoples who are troubling the chat from time to time, loosing the time of both models and members. I saw it and it is very frustrating to see them spilling their venom with inhibition. So, I think you should refrain yourself of directing us on this model instead of that model. I can decide this by myself. I am a grown up man! Don't be offended by my reply, I am doing it for your good. I hope you will realise that you went too far in this forum, and sincerely expect you to receive this as it is: A good advice from a friend. -- Alakazoo

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Created by: Adam Foxx

7/3/11 @ 1:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hi guys.

1) Settle down.

Let's all be gentlemen here. :bulb

2) Members promote their favorite models all the time. A certain "fan club" is a great example of this--and no one seems to take issue with dozens of members promoting that model. So no one should take offense for Fradi doing the EXACT same thing here. :angel

In fact, Fradi has rarely posted to this boards, so I would humbly suggest that him having posted a grand total of 13 times (at the time of this writing), is not even remotely a breach of decorum or over kill. 13 total posts guys. Let's keep a little perspective here. :thumbsup

3) A review is just that--a review. It's an opinion. He's entitled to his just as much as anyone else. You don't have to agree. You may in fact, agree. Ultimately both are meaningless, as they are just opinions. Everyone--including models--have their favorite models. :winkwink

This should not be taken to mean that I agree or do not agree with Fradi's comment...simply that I respect free speech, within the limits of what is legal and what is not. :thumbsup

4) To the previous poster's comment: "I don't want to know which model turns you on, and who just doesn't do it for you. That doesn't benefits me at all," while it may not influence you, traditional marketing has proven time and time again in studies that word-of-mouth marketing (AKA person to person marketing) IS in fact the #1 influential form of marketing. Not TV. Not radio. No magazine ads. No--but rather, someone else telling you about a product or service and whether or not they liked it. This is not a judgment on the poster's comment, just pointing out the business reality of this type of endorsement/recommendation. :winkwink

(I have an undergrad degree in marketing and am working on my MBA with a marketing concentration currently. I LIVE and BREATH marketing. haha)

5) Lighten up guys. This is all just for fun and is a fantasy. No need to attack anyone. Let's all be friends here. Models love performing for you and you love watching us. But I know models don't like it when members fight, members don't like it when models fight and NO ONE likes it when models fight with members and members fight with models. LOL So peace & love everyone. Let's all remember to smile more--the world is only as serious and tumultuous as we make it. xoxo --AF

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Created by: bloodmuscle

7/3/11 @ 3:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Yesterday there was another big bang lol.
It was Big Bang Model Contest performer contest.
Girls and guys had to compete together.
Such contests are more difficult for guys because girls have more regular fans.
Stefano is one of the winners and he is the only guy to win.
Thanks to Stefano to save guy pride! He is the Big Bang boy model

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Created by: William Haley

7/3/11 @ 4:46am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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what a silly promo name, but if you want the best BANG for you credits.. check out Domenic_Prize ...
http://www.flirt4free.com/rooms/domenic_prize/

Thanks for your opinion Frad... your review is not benefitial for my customers to see. But i will not judge you based on your review.

The web site has a lot of models and you can always choose your favorite. it is the magic of this website. Different customers have different tastes. Theres people who like me too... =)

about my hat. I use it in "real life" because I like it and that is how I wear it, people request the hat on even. i have many kind of hats =) I play soccer to for school but i also like to play for fun. I said it in my room and a customer requested that i put on the uniform.... I did it for him.... and he liked it and so did other people

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Created by: alakazoo

7/3/11 @ 8:25am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hi guys.

1) Settle down.

Let's all be gentlemen here. :bulb

--> A little spanking from Adam. Nice! I am a bad boy so I deserve it. :evil

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Created by: phil_usa

7/3/11 @ 9:53am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...Adam, as far as #2 goes, there are plenty of people who have posted negative comments in that thread, some were removed by Adminstration. Therefore people have taken issue with it.

...There is already a thread for Domenic Prize being the best model on here, you should know because you posted in it. Fradi could have simply added to that thread.

...I do understand your support for your "sargent-at-arms" though.

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Created by: fradi1

7/3/11 @ 10:25am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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this is the last i will be responding to this tread, I am glad William understands what i posted and dosn't take offense to what i had to say.

1. Forums � Male Perfomer Chat

I thought this forum was to talk about Performers guess I'm wrong.

2. As far as it goes I get slammed for even suggesting you check out a Performer but if any performer decides to post about a show or we moved or were back or god for bid another performer posts about another.. they don't get slammed nor smacked... guess you guys are to afraid to bruise their precious little egos... way to pick on the new vip.

I'm done here in this forum.. you all can kiss my hairy white ass. :mad

:endrant

VS feel free to delete this thread... from the OP.

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Created by: ronnie-uk

7/3/11 @ 10:46am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I'm sorry to DISAPPOINT you ronnie-uk, but your suspicions are 100% wrong. MY review and reply to newbie on the WH vod is my review of the clip and the model, I've been asked a few times times why i never reviewed any of his. I said he has a nice slender body, but I really feel the way he promotes himself and acts in his room is not a good thing and really a step below "fantasy" into a greyish area.

and that was almost a day between that review and the promo forum post I have made.
so your REALLY
:offtopic

Fradi - please reconsider. I don't want you to leave the forums, and I will feel terribly guilty if you do. I was just about to post the following when I saw your last message. To be frank, I just wanted a little friendly debate here, so I will go ahead with my message as planned. (I see that you just invited a certain person to "spit roast" you in the VIP forum, so I think you are made of sterner stuff).

When I saw your "review" of the William Haley VOD I was tempted to add a review there which was critical of your review. However, I didn't think that was the right place to have a debate. Then when I saw this new topic here, I thought there is not much substance here. A single plug for the lovely Domenic, and possibly a reply from Domenic to say you are very kind. So I thought this would be a better opportunity to have a friendly debate with you about that particular review.

You have been doing a great job giving reviews to many of the VODs, and I know that requires quite a lot of time and effort. I hope you carry on doing it. The reviews that I have read comment on the content of the VOD and the model's performance, and that is quite right.

Can I say in the nicest possible way that the reviews that I highlighted above were not really about William Haley. I think they were really reviews about you. I will explain why.

I like smooth bodies, and I also like hairy bodies. However, I don't go for bears, daddies, beards or moustaches. A number of people do. Some people like tattoos but I don't, although a couple of my favourite models have tattoos. If I saw a VOD with any of these things I wouldn't think it was right to add a comment that watching these VODs made me lose all sexual desire, or that I found them creepy. Such a review would simply be a review about my sexual preferences and sexual hang-ups. Much better to say nothing at all.

Domenic Prize and William Haley are 2 young models who are very popular, work hard and are doing a great job for the Flirt4Free site. Those people who like bears or tattooed hunks probably don't like them at all, but they have their own favourites. Each to his own. There is room for all types.

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Created by: yepyepjpp

7/3/11 @ 12:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for your opinion Frad... your review is not benefitial for my customers to see. But i will not judge you based on your review.

The web site has a lot of models and you can always choose your favorite. it is the magic of this website. Different customers have different tastes. Theres people who like me too... =)

about my hat. I use it in "real life" because I like it and that is how I wear it, people request the hat on even. i have many kind of hats =) I play soccer to for school but i also like to play for fun. I said it in my room and a customer requested that i put on the uniform.... I did it for him.... and he liked it and so did other people

My members tell me that they like me specifically for the mature and grown up coverstations we have (at least as mature as any 18 year old is) But as you said and i TOTALLY agree with: You dont have to change your opinion because of what others people think...

as well i will not change myself because of yours... just will respect it...

OH i was almost forgeting... about your favorite model... Domenic Prize... i tottaly agree... a great model with a great personality =) xoxo Dom! =)

PEACE! =)

Great response William - just shows the class you have and how mature you really are, especially for a 18 year old model. Everyone is welcome to their opinion and we in the Fan Club like promoting you but never have we taken a stab at other models on that thread. If you don't have something good to say about someone, leave it be. If you like someone, let others know about it, its as simple as that. Domenic is really wonderful and I wish him the best along with all the models on this site no matter what they look like. And thats just my :twocents

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Created by: fradi1

7/3/11 @ 12:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Great response William - just shows the class you have and how mature you really are, especially for a 18 year old model. Everyone is welcome to their opinion and we in the Fan Club like promoting you but never have we taken a stab at other models on that thread. If you don't have something good to say about someone, leave it be. If you like someone, let others know about it, its as simple as that. Domenic is really wonderful and I wish him the best along with all the models on this site no matter what they look like. And thats just my :twocents

Here your

back Yep.. because no one took a stab at anyone in this thread.. someone deliberately copy and pasted a vod review as on off topic to this subject.. just because he had a suspicion and assumed something completely wrong.. making an ass out of both of us.

still waiting for VS to delete this post. as requested by OP

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Created by: Adam Foxx

7/3/11 @ 2:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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--> A little spanking from Adam. Nice! I am a bad boy so I deserve it. :evil

;) (hugs) Thanks for taking constructive criticism well. Much appreciated.

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Created by: Adam Foxx

7/3/11 @ 2:21pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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...I do understand your support for your "sargent-at-arms" though.

Hi Phil (you know I think the world of you...so PLEASE take this in a positive way

Point #1: I was writing about other MEMBERS NOT taking issue with a "fan page". Not what admin thinks. ;) Personally, I think MOST people take these boards way too seriously. haha ;)

Point #2: Again, at the time I wrote that he had posted a grand total of 13 times. I suspect that he didn't take the time to see if there was an existing thread for Dom. Plus if I recall, Dom's thread is "fan page" similar to the other other active one. One could debate (although my coffee has kicked in yet...so PLEASE let's not lol ;) ) that a promo push for a member's favorite model is worthy of a new thread by a new member, as 1) the member is relatively new and 2) the promo is only 24 hours and "needs" the extra notice, in light of the limited time frame.

Point #3: Come on--how cute is that title "sargeant-at-arms"? Cracks me up every time I say it.

But my "support" of this member is irrelevant here. Again, I didn't say I agree or disagree with his comments in initial post. I'm just not a fan of anyone coming down on a new member for posting something--new thread or not. We all need to remember that when new members joins, we need to be respectful, "teach" them the rules/standards/expectations of the boards and be welcoming. I am pretty sure you would agree with me on that point my friend.

xoxo --AF

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Created by: phil_usa

7/3/11 @ 6:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...I do agree with you that we should try to treat new members respecfully.

...I was just making a simple observation of the threads that were near the top.

...I like that you refer to Fradi1 as your "Sargent-at-arms.

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Created by: newbie23

7/3/11 @ 7:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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This is not the first time that someone has rattled the "William looks too young" saber. Well, many other models on this site look real young too - both female as well as male. First, this site is about erotic entertainment. This is not the place to play "save the children." Please I get enough moralizing everywhere else. Second, William is a winner because of his intelligence, his grace and his friendly acceptance of a wide range of members. Third, if you don't like models with a youthful look than go to another model. There are plenty of very hot men on this site. Why waste time looking at what you don't like? Me think thou dost protest too much.

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Created by: fradi1

7/3/11 @ 7:18pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Here your

back Newbie.. because no one took a stab at anyone in this thread.. someone deliberately copy and pasted a vod review as on off topic to this subject.. just because he had a suspicion and assumed something completely wrong.. making an ass out of both of us.

maybe if you read more I wouldn't have to repost. THou doseth think thee has rotten fish in thy codpiece

still waiting for VS to delete this post. as requested by OP

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Created by: newbie23

7/3/11 @ 8:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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hmmmmm. funny i didn't mention you. but i do have one other thought. if an 18 your old dude dresses in a soccer uniform is that any different than an 18 year old woman in a cheerleader outfit?

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Created by: fradi1

7/3/11 @ 8:20pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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still

and my comments in the vod stand, it don't matter if its a William or Wilma. the gray area I feel is being threaded on is neither exclusive nor restrictive to either genders.

still waiting for VS to delete this post. as requested by OP

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