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Male Performer Chat: Liars and Thieves

Created by: gayslave4u

11/20/10 @ 9:27pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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It seems we have several models (Adrian Orson, Willsonn, etc.) who are ripping off members in their private chat. Promising to cum and then, when your credits are almost exhausted, saying, "Oh, i can't cum." Or .. the infamous fake cum. Lotion, spit, etc. These guys are liars and thieves. I cannot believe that a premium site like F4F would allow these guys to stay and continue to cheat members out of their money.

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Created by: Luk A

11/21/10 @ 5:50am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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When You feel someone cheated You in pvt, immediately just conctact customer service, those models will get a fine if they really did something bad.
Most here are good boys, Your action will help keep the site better.
Thank You

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Created by: Eros Sun

11/21/10 @ 11:17am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Ya these models most be reported as soon as it is seem, that way the site can stay a great site.

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Created by: zfanofall

11/29/10 @ 11:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well I am new here but they will be off my list. The one guy i have been in privates does say that for cum shots he does need 5 to 10 minutes, but at least he was honest and did provide and it was all real - love it when a performer zooms in so you can see them shoot!

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Created by: male4622

11/29/10 @ 9:49pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I'm not commenting on your specific show, but, remember that the models aren't superheroes, either. They are men just like you and me. I never expect a cum shot, but I'm happy if I get it. I don't ask for promises.

Just me though. Doesn't mean that you shouldn't.

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Created by: chinmusic

11/29/10 @ 10:25pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I'm in agreement, male4622

Putting a time limit on ejaculation is rather clinical, and takes the sexiness, and obviously the spontaneity, out of the equation.

There is nothing wrong in asking, I guess, but it's just not my bag.

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Created by: Anwar D

12/7/10 @ 12:42pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: Mark Magic

12/12/10 @ 8:14pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I am not sure why a performer can't just be honest. If he has already had a few private shows and cum, it will be harder for him to cum. I just tell someone before going to private that I may not be able to cum for them. Then it's their choice. But then again, I am not here to just take someones money lol. I truly want to make long lasting friends here. I live in the south and it's hard to be friends with people that hate gays. I am not totally gay, I am bi however, they still bash me every day here. So just being able to talk to others here is enough for me

So to the follow performers, don't lie cheat and steal, just be honest. I am sure that if you are honest the member will either still take you to private and see if they can coach you into cumming, or they will say thanks for being honest, I will be back another time when you can be sure you will cum. :jerkoff

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Created by: erect_knob

12/13/10 @ 4:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Avoid MITCH he is a FAKE model, both in pvt and in party chat, he gets your credits then pretends to selfsuck and cum off cam, even dildo action is fake.
Never seen a more dishonest guy

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Created by: louisphillippe

12/14/10 @ 1:54am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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You are right bello Luca!!!...But have you noticed most of the posted complaints come from customers with 1,5,10 or 12 posts maximum???

It seems kind of strange they always bump into the :evil

BAD models
and they ONLY post under new nicknames... :evil

If I'm telling the truth I would never hide behind a FAKE new nickname... :bulb

I always like to side with the models because like ANWAR said:THEY ARE SUPER HEROES!!!

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...Just my :twocents

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Created by: Mitch

12/16/10 @ 6:57am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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::what ?? how can u say that i am fake when i do my best in pvt read my comments about me u never joined me and how can u say that and make me a lyer i dont understand that

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Created by: petek

12/17/10 @ 3:36am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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TRIAL BY FORUM

Avoid MITCH he is a FAKE model, both in pvt and in party chat, he gets your credits then pretends to selfsuck and cum off cam, even dildo action is fake.
Never seen a more dishonest guy

what ?? how can u say that i am fake when i do my best in pvt read my comments about me u never joined me and how can u say that and make me a lyer i dont understand that

erect_knob - Mitch has responded.

He infers that you have not had a Private show with him so if you are unhappy about something that has happened to YOU in Party chat after YOU have tipped him you should make your complaint to Customer Service before accusing him here.

erect_knob, the ball is in your court now and you should be more specific and expand on your accusation with dates, times, screenshot evidence etc. to justify your damning comments or do the honourable thing and apologise as you withdraw them.

:twocents

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Created by: Mitch

12/17/10 @ 1:02pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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what ?? how can u say that i am fake when i do my best in pvt read my comments about me u never joined me and how can u say that and make me a lyer i dont understand that

erect_knob - Mitch has responded.

He infers that you have not had a Private show with him so if you are unhappy about something that has happened to YOU in Party chat after YOU have tipped him you should make your complaint to Customer Service before accusing him here.

erect_knob, the ball is in your court now and you should be more specific and expand on your accusation with dates, times, screenshot evidence etc. to justify your damning comments or do the honourable thing and apologise as you withdraw them.

:twocents

::quote_enerect_knob has just1 post

( how can he say that about me??????

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Created by: tickler335

12/17/10 @ 3:39pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: lsevenh

12/17/10 @ 5:49pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Well said Michael.
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Created by: petek

12/17/10 @ 8:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Pete K.....Have you been appointed by Flirt to mediate these matters, or is this a self-appointed role? If the former is the case, I defer if, however, the latter is the case then you are just another forum member stating an opinion and not stating policy. Your tone suggests a more authoritative voice than I suspect is the case.
Michael

Tickler335 -- Precisely Michael, you have hit the nail on the head. Like yourself, I am as you put it "just another forum member stating an opinion." Whether you or others agree or disagree with my opinions, that is your or their prerogative.

My opinions I would add are based on having being a member here for a number of years in which I have got to know many models, some more personally than others, and in those years have learnt that the majority of models are not working here for the love of the job but, as I have stated recently in another forum, to earn some cash to survive or fund themselves through college or whatever.

In this particular case, in which I am unknown to the model, it was my opinion in the light of the response by the model that the bold damaging statement in the accusation that he should be avoided may have been unjustified. Therefore I was suggesting that erect_knob should now substaniate his accusation or withdraw it.

I am not necessarily championing the models as in the past I have raised the question of faking cumshots etc. but have not stooped to the depths of naming them in public. Certain members here would not agree with me on that and they are ready to name and shame in public and make demands for their punishment. Hence my use of the heading "Trial by Forum" in my previous post. Maybe Michael you missed that as it is not included in the quote in your post.

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Created by: lsevenh

12/17/10 @ 10:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Tickler335 -- Precisely Michael, you have hit the nail on the head. Like yourself, I am as you put it "just another forum member stating an opinion." Whether you or others agree or disagree with my opinions, that is your or their prerogative.

My opinions I would add are based on having being a member here for a number of years in which I have got to know many models, some more personally than others, and in those years have learnt that the majority of models are not working here for the love of the job but, as I have stated recently in another forum, to earn some cash to survive or fund themselves through college or whatever.

In this particular case, in which I am unknown to the model, it was my opinion in the light of the response by the model that the bold damaging statement in the accusation that he should be avoided may have been unjustified. Therefore I was suggesting that erect_knob should now substaniate his accusation or withdraw it.

I am not necessarily championing the models as in the past I have raised the question of faking cumshots etc. but have not stooped to the depths of naming them in public. Certain members here would not agree with me on that and they are ready to name and shame in public and make demands for their punishment. Hence my use of the heading "Trial by Forum" in my previous post. Maybe Michael you missed that as it is not included in the quote in your post.

:smoking

I still agree with Michael, your post(s) attempt an air of authority that does not belong to you.

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Created by: tickler335

12/17/10 @ 10:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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He infers that you have not had a Private show with him so if you are unhappy about something that has happened to YOU in Party chat after YOU have tipped him you should make your complaint to Customer Service before accusing him here.

erect_knob, the ball is in your court now and you should be more specific and expand on your accusation with dates, times, screenshot evidence etc. to justify your damning comments or do the honourable thing and apologise as you withdraw them.

PeteK, this is your statement. I see the phrase, "you should..." twice and "do the honourable thing..." once. Nowhere do I see the preface, "In my opinion."

This looks, to my eye, like you are stating policy, not opinion. In addition, you were not present during the conversation in question, therefore your comments are heresay based on assertions from both sides, the models and erect_knob's. Many of us have long term experience here. I am a FORUM rookie, I am NOT a Flirt4free rookie. It is outside my province to comment on the particulars here because I was not present. Thank you for sharing your seasoned opinions, they are valuable AS OPINIONS. I am not so sure they are valid as imperatives for behavior.

Michael

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Created by: chinmusic

12/17/10 @ 11:03pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Michael,

I've enjoyed this exchange. Would that I could articulate as well!
Hope we meet in a room sometime.

Eric

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Created by: tickler335

12/17/10 @ 11:37pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Michael,

I've enjoyed this exchange. Would that I could articulate as well!
Hope we meet in a room sometime.

Eric

Thanks Eric, I'd really enjoy that! Hope I see you soon.

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