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Male Performer Chat: hate speech can not be tolerated

Created by: blazze

10/18/10 @ 1:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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On the night of October 17th/ early the 18th, the most outrageous hate speech spewed forth from Haruko U. He repeatedly spewed forth calling me a sp* "foggot" and continued a foul speech about the gay lifestyle! IT was outrageous considering he is working for ( among others) a site devoted entirely to gay men! This is unacceptable, I will make it my mission to eradicate this homophobia on this site as you should also! Please join me in making this site hostile free!

Looking forward to your response

Ronnie

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Created by: maxx20020

10/18/10 @ 4:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Agreed. These models should know better as to who their clientele are and pays their salaries even if they are not gay. This is especially true of some of the models in Europe.

On the other hand, models who use the ban button when asked about performing gay sex (with another guy, playing with toys, etc), presuming they are gay but are playing a 'role' on this site, should also not be tolerated. Either they need to play the game better as they get paid to entertain the gay subscribers (and those who are curious), or go as well.

Thank you for naming the model who was abusive to you. He should be boycotted, if he isn't fired, for what he did.

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Created by: nathanjones1

10/18/10 @ 3:59pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Happened to me with Sront Selonte a few days ago too...called everyone in his room "pidors," which is Russian for "faggots." There were only three of us in his room talking at the time, and nobody had been the slighest bit rude to him. His attack came out of nowhere.

If this was the first time I'd experienced this kind of behavior at F4F, then I might have ignored it. However, this is the second Russian model I've seen use that term to attack customers. I know that there are many Russian models who are excellent with customers (Evilin, Dragion, Rand, Daniko X etc.), but it really irks me.

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Created by: ohcrapitsmom

10/18/10 @ 7:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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What I don't understand is this...why would a GUY put his stuff on here if he hated gays so much? Who would he be trying to attract, women?
Yeah, there's a lucrative field...women who spend money on webcam shows. I'm a woman, and I can tell you it don't happen often. We LOVE our gay men, but we aren't big "cammers".
No, he knows god-damned WELL it's men on here for the most part, and he's just being a prick about it, cause he HATES the fact that he's gay.

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Created by: blazze

10/19/10 @ 10:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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TO all concerned... my response to the complaint I filed with F4F is the following:

Unfortunately our system does not record and store open room chats. Did you get a screenshot of the chat? Should you have any new questions or concerns, please fell free to this email or call us at.....

Nowhere does the email at the very least say... if this did in fact occur, we regret and apologize for.... NOTHING! Customer service here seems amateurish and apathetic.

I enjoy many models and other members here but the total lack of empathy on the part of F4F makes me question my membership on this site all together....

Hate speech should never be tolerated or condoned.... or looked the other way just for profits! Shame on you F4F!!!

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Created by: corvino2

10/20/10 @ 1:25am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: blazze

10/20/10 @ 1:55am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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What do you expect. He's one of the most constant workers on the site - in fact he's online as I write this. So he must be making a lot of money for F4F.

And so that makes it justified?? The level of acceptance of homophobia by some gay men that must be experiencing some level of selfhatred that they feel that this homophobia is accectable is OUTRAGEOUS! I feel very sorry for them and hope they come to a level of self acceptance and importance very soon.

In the meantime, can i call all my brothers of gay respect and pride to not support the antigay undercurrent that is now apart of F4F? We can obliterate this kind of disrespect and hatred with our own dollars, no matter of how "cute" the model, if they support homophobia.... do NOT support them!

Thanks all prideful gays!
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Created by: Anwar D

10/20/10 @ 5:54am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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And so that makes it justified?? The level of acceptance of homophobia by some gay men that must be experiencing some level of selfhatred that they feel that this homophobia is accectable is OUTRAGEOUS! I feel very sorry for them and hope they come to a level of self acceptance and importance very soon.

In the meantime, can i call all my brothers of gay respect and pride to not support the antigay undercurrent that is now apart of F4F? We can obliterate this kind of disrespect and hatred with our own dollars, no matter of how "cute" the model, if they support homophobia.... do NOT support them!

Thanks all prideful gays!
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the best solution is to avoid what you do not like, and relax...we all encounter bad people everywhere but this does not mean this site is not the best place for people to meet and have fun. i myself have made a lot of friends here and though some talked very bad to me and called me names. best thing is to let behind and have fun like you used to blaze

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Created by: corvino2

10/20/10 @ 6:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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And so that makes it justified?? The level of acceptance of homophobia by some gay men that must be experiencing some level of selfhatred that they feel that this homophobia is accectable is OUTRAGEOUS! I feel very sorry for them and hope they come to a level of self acceptance and importance very soon.

In the meantime, can i call all my brothers of gay respect and pride to not support the antigay undercurrent that is now apart of F4F? We can obliterate this kind of disrespect and hatred with our own dollars, no matter of how "cute" the model, if they support homophobia.... do NOT support them!

Thanks all prideful gays!
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Iwasn't saying it was acceptable I was simply saying that's how a site like this works. Get off your high horse.

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Created by: maxx20020

10/20/10 @ 10:20am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Post the offending models on this thread or start a new one just for that purpose. What also irks me is when the bio says they are gay or bi, this kind of hatred comes out of their mouths. Why put up a fake bio if you hate gays. Besides, you are going to be asked to finger your ass, suck on a dildo or perform some other 'gay' act in private. Once we know who these offending models are, we will all know to avoid them.

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Created by: Anwar D

10/20/10 @ 11:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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And so that makes it justified?? The level of acceptance of homophobia by some gay men that must be experiencing some level of selfhatred that they feel that this homophobia is accectable is OUTRAGEOUS! I feel very sorry for them and hope they come to a level of self acceptance and importance very soon.

In the meantime, can i call all my brothers of gay respect and pride to not support the antigay undercurrent that is now apart of F4F? We can obliterate this kind of disrespect and hatred with our own dollars, no matter of how "cute" the model, if they support homophobia.... do NOT support them!

Thanks all prideful gays!
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Iwasn't saying it was acceptable I was simply saying that's how a site like this works. Get off your high horse.

you should calm down and not generalize. flirt and 98% of the models here are decent people and gay! so please do not generalize by talking about some isolated cases. nobody agrees with what happened

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Created by: toppgun

10/20/10 @ 1:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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naming models names on here is not the proper way to handle it guys..better yet just go to another model and enjoy the site for what it was intended for :twocents

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Created by: Marshal X

10/20/10 @ 7:25pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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i am a model here and if a model wants to truely pull that stuff it offends some of us models as well (ie. me) and if i see it online i will be taking it to every chain i have to get that model dealt with. i do not tolerate that kind of talk in my room or around me. i am bi and i will do what i can where i can. :mad

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Created by: maxx20020

10/20/10 @ 10:23pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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naming models names on here is not the proper way to handle it guys..better yet just go to another model and enjoy the site for what it was intended for :twocents

Sorry. That doesn't work for people with any sense of pride or dignity. Models who abuse customers in such a way need to be known and avoided. Sweeping the issue aside by going to another model doesn't deal with the issue. The homophobe is allowed to continue unless he is known to others and avoided. Why should my membership money be spread to support him in any form?

Members do not pay $XX to have a model ridicule or humiliate who and what they are. Its funny that the model's bio states he is 'gay.' Even if he is playing a 'role' what he said to Blazze has no place. A professional working place would either have had him fired on the spot, or have him put on notice that if it occurred again, he's gone. I'm reasonably sure his working contract with Flirt must have a code of conduct clause. The question is if a superior has taken the time to look into the matter and counseled this model over the incident. I suspect even IF he was, the offending member would have received a letter citing employer confidentiality with regard to the disciplinary action taken. We live in an enlightened age and idiots who do not know this is the 21st century need to deal with their own homophobia and work elsewhere.

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Created by: male4622

10/21/10 @ 11:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: United States
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If this had happened to me, I might have been moved to complain, but I wouldn't extrapolate one model's actions onto the site and other models. Usually, it's the studio that's much more responsible for the actions of the models they manage anyway. The best way is to avoid that model and his studio.

There are some really nice people on the site, but there are some jerks, too. The speech by that one model, if it occurred in the manner you say, reflects more on him than anyone else. It's the textbook response by somebody who is maybe unhappy with something about himself, so he makes others feel bad.

Laugh, live, and love...enjoy life.

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Created by: Marshal X

10/23/10 @ 6:59am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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i totally agree dont have much else to say lol the studio lvl is what models see most. we hear if big bad vs and use there stuff but its the studio that talks to VS mostly

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Created by: paperpunch09

10/23/10 @ 10:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: USA
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I encountered a model on here back in April who spewed forth hatred of gays and I spoke up. I had proof to back my story up (via screencaps) and he is no longer working on here--in fact he only lasted 2-3 days.

His tone w/ gay people was very derogatory and highly offensive. I didn't stand for that behavior because as a human being regardless of sexual orientation no one deserves to be ridiculed/demeaned like that.

I will speak up and report it if I see it firsthand. I see some say move on to a different model that only makes it worse because you are saying it is acceptable behavior and should continue.

Naming and shaming should be used to warn others (I waited until after my first report to CS and their reply before I posted here and in the straight fantasies forum).

There are plenty of decent models on here like others have stated--find them and enjoy them.

paperpunch

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Created by: iamcumluvr

10/24/10 @ 10:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: iamcumluvr

10/24/10 @ 10:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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naming models names on here is not the proper way to handle it guys..better yet just go to another model and enjoy the site for what it was intended for :twocents

Why should he not name the model? We should all name models who act like this or mistreat members. Maybe F4F will get the hint and start getting rid of "models" like this one.

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Created by: maxx20020

10/27/10 @ 12:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Blazze, what is the latest news with regard to your incident with Haruku? I see he was working on 10/26. Has their been any resolution to your issue? I see your 'review' on his bio page. ^5. I hope it stays on there...if you know what I mean.
Would you accept an apology from him if he offered a sincere one? :thumbsup

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