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Male Performer Chat: FLIRT OF THE MONTH
PaulUSA
Created by: paulusa

11/13/07 @ 7:45pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

:drinkup :drinkup :drinkup

Here it is the end of November and we still do not have a flirt of the month for the last three months of September, October and soon November. I am very disappointed in this site now that we do not list the flirs of the month fast enough so we can also get to have a showing for the flirt of the month winners. It seems like they are avoiding the males side for flirt of the month. In this modern day age of computer you think it would be easy enough to post the Flirt of the Month right after they check who won with the voting we do each month.

I was also wondering who won on the male side for the Halloween costume parade?

Paul
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HotJock24
Created by: hotjock24

11/13/07 @ 10:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Agreed Paul. Most businesses wouldn't survive with the reporting performance of F4F. I used to manage multimillion dollar projects - and had to have monthly information updated within days of the end of the month. Tallying these votes for FOTM shouldn't be that difficult. It is pretty simple math... take the last vote of each VIP member for the month (since only the last one counts) ... and the model they voted for... that should be it.

And you are right... they never gave the Halloween night costume results either. In spite of the fact that they also say that someone will respond to Customer Service issues.. many times they don't do that either.

They realize that people like us will continue to give them our money regardless of their competance. Pretty sad acutally. I have cut way back though.... because I am tired of the continual problems in the new rooms. Time wasted trying "buy" additional minutes.... freezing up of chat... etc.

The novelty of this site is wearing off.
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bubbaboo
Created by: bubbaboo

11/15/07 @ 3:47pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 200

There is an easy way to give less to management that isn't handling your concerns while still supporting the models. Just tip the models as much as you can during your private or voyeur show. Obviously some models get their tips taken, but a majority do get them at a much better ratio compared to their private pay so you can still support them while showing that you are not happy with site issues :bulb
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HotJock24
Created by: hotjock24

11/15/07 @ 3:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I have been doing that lately... buying less expensive time with my favorite model... and tipping more. Works out better for both of us. I find it rather interesting that Brad (or someone else from VS) doesn't ever comment on why the FOTM decision takes so long. Ridiculous. :winkwink
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Created by: ourjeffie

11/15/07 @ 11:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
Posts: 45,964

I find it rather interesting that Brad (or someone else from VS) doesn't ever comment on why the FOTM decision takes so long. Ridiculous

:twocents

Brad commented on the reasons for the delay in announcing Flirt of the Month in another thread some time ago

There is a problem when someone starts a new thread for something which is already under discussion ... the discussion becomes fragmented

But of course Brad (or someone from VS) should respond to this thread too, even if it's only to refer us to the earlier post in the other thread
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HotJock24
Created by: hotjock24

11/16/07 @ 4:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Hey guys... did you notice that Vox is the FOTM for OCTOBER... no one listed for September. Is this just another instance of F4F not paying any attention to their postings on this website.

Is Vox really the FOTM for September? or did they just forget about that month.

The operation of this site by VS is pathetic!!

:mad
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Created by: ourjeffie

11/16/07 @ 4:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
Posts: 45,964

:twocents

Maybe Flirt4Free cancelled September to help them catch up a bit? :orglaugh
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HotJock24
Created by: hotjock24

11/16/07 @ 6:18pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Hi ourjeffie,

I received a response from Brad at VS. Here it is:

"There was no winner who accepted that met our requirements fo September for guys or girls."

What the heck does that mean? No one actually wants to win these things? And if not, why not?
Perhaps they don't want to have to do the interviews or Feature shows.

I don't understand this at all..
oh well.....



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Samme
Created by: samme

11/16/07 @ 8:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Winners must agree to submit numerous pictures and produce an interview video at their own expense. Some models think it is not worth all the time and effort plus also doing a long demanding multi hour feature show for a nominal fee paid to them from f4f.
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tpitt
Created by: tpitt

11/16/07 @ 11:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: between the sheets
Posts: 70

What a joke!!! I know of many people voting for Berk every month and i know he would not refuse to do another feature. What are the requirements that need to be met? If they work at the site aren't the requirements already met? The real reason behind this little sherade might be problems with the system -- again.

No model meeting the requirements ---- again I say --- WHAT A JOKE!!!
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Created by: ourjeffie

11/17/07 @ 1:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
Posts: 45,964

:twocents

It's not a joke if you understand the rules, tpitt

One of the rules is that a model can't win FOTM more than once a year ... you may not agree with it, and I may not agree with it, but it's one of the rules

And did you read Samme's post? He is right ... some models who qualify as winnners don't think it's worthwhile providing photos and videos at their own expense and then doing a feature show for only a nominal fee, and of course that is the prerogative of those models. Again, you and I may not agree that models should have to satisfy these conditions to be classed as winners, but they are Flirt4Free requirements
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HotJock24
Created by: hotjock24

11/17/07 @ 10:17am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Interesting... so the voting instructions should read: "Vote for your favorite model WHO HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY WON FOTM during the current year". I realize that this format allows more models to "enjoy" the experience of being FOTM, but if you were a previous winner, why work your ass off to please everyone (other than for the pittance some of these models are paid) when you know you can't win again for x number of months?

In sports, there is usually nothing prohibiting a player winner "Player of the week or the month" consecutive times if their performance so warrants.

oh well....rules are rules... not matter how seemingly ridiculous.

Just my couple of cents worth.

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tpitt
Created by: tpitt

11/17/07 @ 12:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: between the sheets
Posts: 70

I agree with HOTJOCK24, a winner is a winner is a winner. If a model receives the votes regardless of already having won once during the calender year then it seems to me that he/she deserves it. Now as for accepting the honor that is up to the model. They receive a nice bonus for being FOTM ($500). And usually have more pvts the following weeks. But as for accepting the award that is solely up to the model -- I understand that. But not letting a model win more than once a year that is CRAP. By letting a model win more than once might make the others stand up and take notice, what is he/she doing to get this. And maybe there would be some more lively rooms and or pvts.

Where can we see the rules for the models and fotm requirements?


Anyways, that is my :twocents worth and I am sure there will be more.
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Samme
Created by: samme

11/17/07 @ 2:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

For $500, you must take time to take numerous digtal pictures, produce an interview video (most do not have either camera to achieve this). Then spend 3 straight hours in a pvt feature show.... all for $500 that is sent to the models studio. Actually some models feel they have a period short of pvt dropoff after a feature show if they do a good one. All the VIP's already got to see everything for their membership. Why pay for an encore?

I can see limiting the # of times a person can win in a certain period. Keep in mind that the monthly winners qualify for FOTY. As for Berk, even though he is popular, he was not the first choice in Sept 2006 for FOTM if you remember. He won after someone else declined. He also did not win FOTY, but there is always this year. But at the rate he keeps banning people from his room for simple request, only his regulars might be left to vote for him.
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Created by: ourjeffie

11/19/07 @ 10:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
Posts: 45,964

:twocents

VS Jeff has announced the October Flirt of the Month in the General Discussions forum
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bubbaboo
Created by: bubbaboo

11/20/07 @ 12:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 200

For $500, you must take time to take numerous digtal pictures, produce an interview video (most do not have either camera to achieve this). Then spend 3 straight hours in a pvt feature show.... all for $500 that is sent to the models studio. Actually some models feel they have a period short of pvt dropoff after a feature show if they do a good one. All the VIP's already got to see everything for their membership. Why pay for an encore?

I don't think $500 is enough for all of that. Don't forget that afterwards a model's pictures, video and FOTM show are listed on the site for VIPs to enjoy over and over again without paying the model anything residual for it. Even with random show clips models get very little for submitting them :twocents
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