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Created by: ourjeffie

3/5/07 @ 7:44pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I start this thread ONLY so that appel and others will have an appropriate venue to express their concerns

MAYBE they will then stop using other threads for this purpose

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Created by: louisphillippe

3/6/07 @ 1:44am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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FORGET IT...YOU CAN'T BRING SPB INTO THE 21st CENTURY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. STILL A VERY POOR COUNTRY

AND FOR THE AVERAGE MODEL THE EQUIPMENT IS UNAFFORDABLE TO MAKE PENNYES ON THE DOLLAR.SO ARE THE SERVERS,OLD ANTIQUATED AND POOR QUALITY.

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Created by: appel

3/6/07 @ 4:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I start this thread ONLY so that appel and others will have an appropriate venue to express their concerns
MAYBE they will then stop using other threads for this purpose

Thanks ourjeffie, thanks very much.

But you can forget it, as long as this will go on- it will be good to use every opotunety we can to explane how bad the situation is.

But still thanks.

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Created by: appel

3/6/07 @ 5:11am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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FORGET IT...YOU CAN'T BRING SPB INTO THE 21st CENTURY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. STILL A VERY POOR COUNTRY

AND FOR THE AVERAGE MODEL THE EQUIPMENT IS UNAFFORDABLE TO MAKE PENNYES ON THE DOLLAR.SO ARE THE SERVERS,OLD ANTIQUATED AND POOR QUALITY.

Louisphillippe,

The Russian Fedoration is not poor, in fact it's very very rich.
But like in the old days in USA- Russia is still a Cowboy state, the right of the strongest is law there.
In Russia the decent people are extremely poor, than you have people who work in in the system- but in lower positions, they have something more, and then you have the best organiset mob in the world.
In Russia nothing happens without members from the former KGB or members from the SFB from Poetin and their relations have their hands in.
That counts for the seksindustry too. There is mony anough in SPb, but in wrong hands.

Walking on the Nevski Prospect, you can spend more mony in half a hour than on the Shamps Elysee in Paris. You will be supprised by the luxury in some hotels and shops there.

But mabe by other things too.
SPb has between 20000 and 100000 streetkids, a drugs shot cost only 30 dollar and in many backstreets you walk on neadels, so many addicted streetkids, pregnant streetkids, TBC and SOA's too.

More than 70000 familys live in one room only, that's about between 350000 and 450000 people. That can be only man and wife, but also children and grand parents as well, and with 4 or 5 familys the share one toilet, and if there is- one bathroom, but in a lot of them we even don't want to wash our dog in, not to speake about the toilets.
Maybe this all is hard to belief, but alas- it's all so true.

And where do our models come from in SPb?

SPb is now the moste criminal citty in Russia.

Now back to the studios in SPb. To change the equipment in the studios is techlical not difficult for the owners or for Flirt, the studios are only in wrong hands- that's al. And Flirt is dealing with wrong people, that's a facf too.

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Created by: louisphillippe

3/6/07 @ 1:58pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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DEAR APPEL: MY POINT EXACTLY,NOT IN SO MANY WORDS.I CAN ASSURE YOU THE MODELS DON'T COME FROM THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS AND THE STUDIOS ARE MOSTLY OWNED BY
LOWER MIDDLE CLASS AND CONTROLLED BY ...WELL YOU KNOW ALREADY. BUT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO CARE ABOUT THE SUBJET....THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE
FOTM OR FOTY AND WHERE IS MODEL XXYYXX LATELY.
I HATE TO TELL YOU BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPLES TO THE PEAR TREE......

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Created by: appel

3/7/07 @ 8:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My dear friend, you are abselutely right.

Years ago we had in my country a big fuss. What did happen? A professor (Buikhuizen was his name) did found in the brains of dead gays a litle difference somewhere- from brains from straight people- without making any conclusions about it, he just did see a difference, that part should be more like that part in women brains. The whole gay and medical world in my country came after him and accused him to mark gay people as not normal.
Now a days the medical world thinks more in the way of that prof, and nobody cares.
Ofcours gay people are mostly normal, I'm too, but if you see in what a lot of members have most intrest in? grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrrgr.

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Created by: stewier

3/7/07 @ 8:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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With all due respect Appel, members here can be both interested in the welfare of the models and the winners of FOTY/FOTM
This is primerily an entertainment website and not a social welfare site
:twocents

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Created by: lambo6

3/9/07 @ 10:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Florence,Italy or New York USA.

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I start this thread ONLY so that appel and others will have an appropriate venue to express their concerns
MAYBE they will then stop using other threads for this purpose

DEAR SIR: I HUMBLY APOLOGISE IF I EVER USED OTHER
THREADS TO VOICE MY OPINION IN A MANNER THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO FEEL UNCONFORTABLE OR THAT I WAS WASTING YOUR SPACE AND TIME BY HAVING A CONCIENCE,A HEART AND HUMAN CONCERNS.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY INAPROPIATE OF ME TO DO SO AND I SINCERELY HOPE YOU CAN FORGIVE MY RUDNES AND IGNORANCE. I CAN PROMESS YOU IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN AND MY PUNISHMENT WILL BE TO RESIGN FROM THIS NOBLE INSTITUTION AS PER MARCH 23.
ALWAYS AT YOUR SERVICE RESPECTFULY:
LOUIS PHILLIPPE .

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Created by: lambo6

3/9/07 @ 10:44pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: appel

3/10/07 @ 6:13am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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DEAR OURJEFFY: I HUMBLY APOLOGISE FOR VOICING MY OPINION IN PLACES YOU FIND INADECUATED. I NEVER MEANT TO INVADE YOUR SPACE,WASTE YOUR TIME NOR MAKE YOU UNCONFORTABLE IN ANY WAY.MY EGOTISTIC BELIVE IN HAVING A HEART,PRINCIPALS AND HUMAN CONCERNS GOT IN THE WAY. PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE AND RUDNESS
AND I SINCERELY APOLOGISE IF I HAVE CAUSED YOU ANY
DISCONFORT OR OFFENSE.
I FEEL THE THE ONLY WAY TO BE PUNISHED FOR MY ERRORS
IS TO TERMINATE MY MEMBERSHIP AND USE OF THIS NOBLE INSTITUTION FOREVER AS PER MARCH 23.
I REMAIN HUMBLY AT YOUR SERVICE:
LOUIS PHILLIPPE.

Dear friend,

I know that you have your heart on the right place, so I hope that you come back from your decision to leave this noble institution- as you name it.
Two months ago I also did leave it- but than I did realise that there is to much to do and came back after a short whyle.
At least some of us should wake up the crowd and do understand them that those shit cams in SPb not only are very very bad for the poor models there- but also a slap in our face and a disgusting robbery from our wallets.
I realy can't understand why so many members doesn't agree that it's quiet normal that as long as Flirt pays those studios- it's only Flirt who decides for what they pay, and nobody els, at least not the way around I supose.
Or is Flirt already yet owned by those studios?
So dear friend- don't go, man like you- we can't have anough here.

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Created by: lambo6

3/10/07 @ 12:02pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Florence,Italy or New York USA.

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DEAR APPEL: IT IS USELESS TO FEED A MONSTER THAT
EVENTUALLY WILL DEVOUR YOU. WE HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SAYING AT ALL. THE DIFFERENT AFFILIATED SITES
ALL OVER THE WORLD RE TRANSMIT (FOR A MUCH LOWER PRICE)WHATEVER GOES ON IN F4F. I CAN VIEW THE SAME EXACT THING IN NEW YORK FOR 2,99 A MINUTE IN PVTS.
SAME MODELS. F4F IS THE TOP OF THE HEAP AND TO EVEN MAKE MORE MONEY THEY "FARM OUT" THEIR TRANSMITIONS GETTING A WHOPPING 60 TO 70% FROM THE SUBSIDIARIES.
THE MEMBERS DON'T GIVE A DAMN NOR CARE ABOUT
PAYING $6 PER MINUTE.
YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO THE WATER BUT YOU CAN'T FORCE IT TO DRINK.
I WAS GLAD TO HAVE MET YOU AND A COUPLE MORE FELLOWS
BUT MY DESITION IS IRREVERSABLE AND FINAL.
MY WARMEST REGARDS.
LOUIS PHILLIPPE.

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Created by: butt-licker

3/12/07 @ 8:44am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Having recently noticed that I had been "cheated" out of almost 20 minutes in a failed pvt. with a model from spb, I am pleased to report that I sent a complaint last evening (via e-mail) via the "help line," and had a reply this morning stating that those minutes had been restored.

So maybe there is some hope in "flirt4free-land."

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Created by: appel

3/17/07 @ 3:04pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: ourjeffie

3/18/07 @ 5:08am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I couldn't help noticing ...

appel regards anyone who agrees with him as a "dear friend"

appel regards anyone who has an opinion or an interest which is different from his as stupid :orglaugh

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Created by: dgtgr

3/18/07 @ 5:25pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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No matter if someone is 'dear friend' or 'stupid' the problem of 'SPB SHIT CAMS' do exist, and I feel that will exist for long time more. Who cares about customers? Who cares about models?

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Created by: appel

3/18/07 @ 6:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I couldn't help noticing ...
appel regards anyone who agrees with him as a "dear friend"

appel regards anyone who has an opinion or an interest which is different from his as stupid :orglaugh

ourjeffie,

Sorry, but I think you miss something.
Stupid for me indeed is to have MORE interest in totall inimportant things like flirt of the year than about the shitcams in SPb who cost you as a memeber fortune.
That I call members who do care about the even so robbed models- dear friends, is becouse I care about those models too.
Most of those models are extremely poor, and in compairing with them- we members are very rich.
May we have some litle compassion with them from you?

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Created by: appel

3/18/07 @ 6:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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No matter if someone is 'dear friend' or 'stupid' the problem of 'SPB SHIT CAMS' do exist, and I feel that will exist for long time more. Who cares about customers? Who cares about models?

DGTGR,

Alas you are right.
Who cares about the customers and models?
With all the fortune Flirt invest in the so called new vidiosystem- they are still not able, or they don't want to do anything about those shit cams in SPb.
As if those studios don't work for them- and they don't pay those studios?
But in my opinion is one who pays- decide for what he is paying for, and not the way around. That's how it works in every busyness, and as far as I know is the sexindustry no exeption.
I think they don't want to do anything about it.
They will go on with robbing and cheating as long as so few members do protest, or do cansel their membership.
They know too that those poor models have no way to do anything to improve their workingconditions, so why should they worry about them, they are only sexworkers- belonging to the lowest society group and you can treat them the way you want.
But as it is- in my opinion is this real Disgusting.

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Created by: ourjeffie

3/18/07 @ 10:27pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: appel

3/19/07 @ 4:32am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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You are wrong appel, I have much compassion for models, especially those in Saint Petersburg. I count many of them as my friends, and I support them in various ways
However your constant whining about something over which we have no control does not help the models in any way at all

ourjeffie,

Again you miss something.
I never did or will do count you to them who don't have compassion for those models, in fact I know better, and you know that I did showed that here before.
But as long as only so few members do complane about what's happening- instead al memers, then this will go on. Flirt only can exist as long as they will have anough members who are satisfyed anought so they pay anough for pvt.
As you support models in various ways- so do I and other members too- and we don't need Flirt anymore for that too, but that doesn't take away in my opinion that to much members here keep silent. But I believe that if we al want- and we al go for it, Flirt will have to do something about those shit cams, but than we al have to go for it.
ourjeffie, sorry if you did believe that I took you wrong- I did not.

appel.

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Created by: fryte

3/19/07 @ 6:49am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I realy can't understand why so many members doesn't agree that it's quiet normal that as long as Flirt pays those studios- it's only Flirt who decides for what they pay, and nobody els, at least not the way around I supose.
Or is Flirt already yet owned by those studios?
So dear friend- don't go, man like you- we can't have anough here.

maybe you tell me if they make better cameras does flirt pay or models

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