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Created by: blackbird2

1/20/07 @ 2:06am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Iowa
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I have been in pvt a couple of times in the beta rooms and there was no tip button. Is this going to be a permanent change? Many of these guys are in desperate need of that money because their share of the pvt money is very low.

Thanks for any input on this.

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Created by: w8

1/20/07 @ 7:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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this was already answered by VS-Jamie--seems its only a temporary measure until they switch to new format-or so he says lol............

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Created by: stewier

1/20/07 @ 8:34am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: nyc
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This "temporary" situation is spreading to more rooms and hurting more models.
Wonder if F4F, or VS brad/Jaime ever considered helping these deprived models during this "temporary" situation?
:twocents

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Created by: bloomer22

1/20/07 @ 1:14pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hey Blackbird,
I totally agree. I have had an eye opening experience of late at how desperately poor some of these models are. Many of them have to do this cause jobs are minimal in their countries, and some have families to support, as many times they are the sole bread winner. Many of them want to be something in this world, but have a lot of challenges to over come, so when f4f takes even more, it suks the big one. So be grateful for what you have and always be the squeeky wheel as advocates for some of these guys who have brought us so much pleasure. There are a few specific ones that give 110%,
and try and make their rooms and pvts as welocming as ever
Peace

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Created by: w8

1/20/07 @ 6:04pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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lol-Stewie---f4f help out the models---the more you listen to the models--the more gripes they have to tell you!!-I know we only get to hear one side of all this--buy the many times the same things are being repeated seems to suggest its not all lies!!-seems studios have started to moan at models because there earnings are down cause of the no tip situation--penalties are being imposed for the slightest breaking of rules.so that managers can recuperate the losses.....

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Created by: appel

1/21/07 @ 3:32am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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stewieR, one thing is for sure- neither fl4fr or the studio's do care about the models.

And about tipping, there are studio's who take 40 procent from it, because they are such a nice bossess for the models, at least thats what they seem to think.

To me, it stinks.

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Created by: appel

1/23/07 @ 9:10am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Can anybody tell me why studios can take 40 percent from what we tip to the models?

I realy like to know why, because I always thought- that what we tip, thats for the models- for them only.

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Created by: blackbird2

1/24/07 @ 12:41am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Iowa
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All very good points about the tipping situation. I think it is time for a little F4F reform on this subject.

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Created by: appel

1/24/07 @ 4:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks Blackbird2,

Yes it's time, high time.

Like it's now- it's a shame in my opinion. To me- this is robbery, and a big crime.

It seems that fl4fr doen't care what that means for us- and more important- for what we call our models.

Models? In fact they are poor seksworkers. Very litle pay and hard work! And when think that we can help them- they get robbed, and we too.

Mob?

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Created by: appel

1/27/07 @ 7:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Anyway, they don't deny it.

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Created by: appel

1/28/07 @ 10:10am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I believe they agree with me.

That's realy nice of them.

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Created by: appel

1/28/07 @ 10:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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But ofcours they are nice.

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Created by: appel

1/30/07 @ 9:16am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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But not thru!

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Created by: ourjeffie

2/4/07 @ 9:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think if the tipping function is restored it won't be because we have asked for it or because Flirt4Free feels compassion for the models, it will be because the studios have complained about the loss of revenue

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Created by: appel

2/5/07 @ 3:29am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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ourjeffie, I think you are so right in this.

Indeed the studios don't have any mercy with the models, like fl4fr doesn't have with them.

And so the robbery from the models can go on, it's realy disgusting.

Thanks for for telling your opinion, and let's hope that more members will do.

And let fl4fr finely go do something about the still failing cams in St. Petersburg.

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Created by: appel

2/11/07 @ 3:50am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Yeah, when will they go work on those shit cams in SPb?

I think- never ever, they don't care about.

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Created by: appel

2/22/07 @ 4:50am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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And they still don't do anything about this, grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgr.

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Created by: appel

2/24/07 @ 6:09am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Only stupid talk about a new vidiosystem grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrggrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrg

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Created by: appel

2/26/07 @ 2:36pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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And still they have shit cams in SPB.
Yesterday I saw again two cams drop dead in PVT.
One cam was in a PVT of a new model, and after I saw him swearing from frustration.
It was indeed a very very nice start of his carreer on flirt, very very supporting.

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Created by: jagjag99

2/27/07 @ 11:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: usa
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Yes, the cameras in SPB are frequently bad. There have been many times I would have taken a model in private... but did not because of terrible camera quality and lag. It is a shame this occurs in SPB because most of my favorite models are from there.

When can we get cameras worthy of the expensive prices we pay for privates?

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