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Created by: bloomer22

1/18/07 @ 12:13pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hi Guys,
This my first post of starting a thread. I have over these many months bonded with a couple of models.
It has startled me to learn how incredibly hard life is for some of them in E Europe countries, specifically Romania. Because of internet friendship, I wanted to do something to help them. Yes pvts are one thing, and I do as much as I can, but they only get a pittance of the pvt amount and even tipping on the old system wasn't 100% for them to keep, and now on the new system, no tipping button at all!
So I was thinking of sending some money. None of them has ever solicited me for money, but their story really made me want to do something. One model lives in a 2 room apt with 5 family members and literally has to ration food.
On the other hand, I know there are a lot of scams out there, and my paranoid self thinks they are just playing me with their tale of woe. I don't know, but feel this model is quite sincere.
I would welcome your thoughts and any feedback you could provide
Cheers

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Created by: mishok

1/18/07 @ 4:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: bloomer22

1/18/07 @ 5:53pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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First thing is to remind you that the models are not allowed to have any contact with chatters outside of their room and of course any talk of them receiving money could lose them their job.
Second thing is just to say if you have the chance to help anybody as you go through life, be it a major charity or a guy on the street needing a few coins for a cup of tea, it can be a good thing.
Of course you should only give what you are able to without compromising any other financial commitments you have.
Lastly... however you help or whatever you give, keep in mind that in a few weeks or months you my loose contact. Helping usually shows you take an interest.... but do not expect anything in return because that may lead to disapointment.

Hi Mishok,
I know the rules, but I have never been solicited by any model for money so it was not them, it was me that made offer, and it was refused several times because of that, but I felt this model was hurting so I insisted. It was only a one time shot, I just wanted to know if in my paranoid brain, I was being scammed but everything I know about this person, tells me no..Not a scam, so I feel I did the right thing. I don't expect a thing in return, just an act of kindness on my part.
ciao

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Created by: tpitt

1/18/07 @ 11:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: bloomer22

1/19/07 @ 12:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I to am in contact with a couple Romania model, from this site and another. I get the same truths from both of them that the economy is terrible and putting food on the table IS sometimes hard. I have grown particularly fond of one of the models and we talk regulary. He has opened me up to a whole new world. I never knew how much I had to be thankful for until now. So I have also helped as much as I could.

Hi Tipit. I haven't actually sent the money yet. I wanted to wait for a bunch of e mails from you all with feedback before sending.
thx for response to my thread.
Cheers
Bloomer 22

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Created by: appel

1/21/07 @ 4:19am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: bloomer22

1/21/07 @ 8:45am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Bloomer22, it's very nice from you that you are concerned in the situation of the models from states in East-Europe.
I'm from a West-Europeon state, but I did travel a lot in a East-Europeon state, so I know how well right you are.
For Romania, as new member of the EEG, life there is changing very fast in there benefit now, even there is still so much to do, and most people still are very very poor.
With all the historical richdom they have, they already are taken more and more tourists, and they bring mony in, and therefor they bild many many new hotels now, and many restorations of historical cittys are taken place yet.
In a few years Romania will be much better off- then now. It will go with them like countrys as Spain and Ireland for instance, after they became member of the EEG, before that- life was very hard there too.
In my Opinion, the soner that all the East-Europeon states become member of the EEG, the better for al of us Europeans. I look for that day.

Bloomer22, it's very nice from you that you are concerned in the situation of the models from states in East-Europe.
I'm from a West-Europeon state, but I did travel a lot in a East-Europeon state, so I know how well right you are.
For Romania, as new member of the EEG, life there is changing very fast in there benefit now, even there is still so much to do, and most people still are very very poor.
With all the historical richdom they have, they already are taken more and more tourists, and they bring mony in, and therefor they bild many many new hotels now, and many restorations of historical cittys are taken place yet.
In a few years Romania will be much better off- then now. It will go with them like countrys as Spain and Ireland for instance, after they became member of the EEG, before that- life was very hard there too.
In my Opinion, the soner that all the East-Europeon states become member of the EEG, the better for al of us Europeans. I look for that day.

Bloomer22, it's very nice from you that you are concerned in the situation of the models from states in East-Europe.
I'm from a West-Europeon state, but I did travel a lot in a East-Europeon state, so I know how well right you are.
For Romania, as new member of the EEG, life there is changing very fast in there benefit now, even there is still so much to do, and most people still are very very poor.
With all the historical richdom they have, they already are taken more and more tourists, and they bring mony in, and therefor they bild many many new hotels now, and many restorations of historical cittys are taken place yet.
In a few years Romania will be much better off- then now. It will go with them like countrys as Spain and Ireland for instance, after they became member of the EEG, before that- life was very hard there too.
In my Opinion, the soner that all the East-Europeon states become member of the EEG, the better for al of us Europeans. I look for that day.

Yes, this is true, but until things start changing in a very noticeable way for the man on the street, life continues to be hard. I am glad Romania is in the EU and change is happening. I just hope it is sooner rather than later.
Cheers

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Created by: appel

1/22/07 @ 5:43am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks, Bloomer22.

I hope there are more guys like you here, guys who undestand how rich we are and how poor they.

Believe me, it's going fast in Romania, right now they have not enough workers, because to many of them are working in other Eastern-European countrys, like in Poland for instance, because from Poland many workers are working in my country (NL), so many Romanioans can find work there.

But the models who are student now cant have a 8-5 job, they have to study too, for them it's very difficult, special- as they have to look after their family too. I know them who do more then two jobs to survive, and still try to continue their study.

And they are still so young sometimes.

And what do de bossess in the studio's, well they pay only litle and they take 40 procent from what we tip those poor devils.

That stinks like rotting fish.

But still, let's not forget that life for many people in Africa, for instance, in many coutrys there is real shit. And India, real shit too. Far worse than in Romania.

But again thanks.

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2/22/07 @ 9:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I TOO MADE VERY GOOD FRIENDS OUT OF A FEW MODELS FROM EASTERN EUROPE. I'M SADDEN AND ASHAMED TO ADMIT THAT I'M PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR TAKING PART IN THIS SITES THAT EXPLOIT AND ENSLAVES PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY OTHER RESORCES TO SURVIVE.
BULGARIANS,ROMANIANS CZECHS AND SLOVAKIANS GET UNDER 1.50 PER MINUTE IN PRIVATES ONLY. RUSSIANS EVEN LESS. GETTING THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS IS FORBIDDEN NOT TO PROTECT THEIR PRIVACY,IDENTITY NOR KEEP AWAY STALKERS AND WEIRDOS.. PREPSETEROUS INDEED!!...WHO IS GOING TO FLY TO RUSSIA ROMANIA ,PRAGUE OR BRATISLAVA TO "STALK" OR MOLEST A MODEL?
WE BECAME PART OF A SLAVERY MOVEMENT 2007 STYLE. CYBER SLAVERY WITH A GUY WITH THE SUPREME CENSURING RIGHTS SOMEWHERE OUT THERE....MAKING MILLIONS A MONTH.MAKES YOU THINK TWICE,DOESN'T IT?

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Created by: appel

2/23/07 @ 5:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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louisphilippe,

The Russian models get only 0,9 dollar per mminute pvt, and as I told before, from what we tip- the studio's take 40% of it.

Indeed, harsh robbery and slavery.

Maybe they hate us very much the poor guys, and I can't blame them for.

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