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Created by: ourjeffie

3/27/07 @ 6:02am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Rox, I responded to you in the other thread, which is a more appropriate thread for the purpose

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Created by: appel

3/27/07 @ 11:24am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Rox, I responded to you in the other thread, which is a more appropriate thread for the purpose

ourjeffie- this is ridiculous, because this thread is going about the shitcams and system in SPb- so this is the right threat to talk about.
But ourjeffie- can you be so kind to tell us or in your opinion Flirt should deliver us for what we pay for?
Now I'm very curious about your answer.
appel.

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3/28/07 @ 9:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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ourjeffie- this is ridiculous, because this thread is going about the shitcams and system in SPb- so this is the right threat to talk about.
But ourjeffie- can you be so kind to tell us or in your opinion Flirt should deliver us for what we pay for?
Now I'm very curious about your answer.
appel.

ourjefie, did you already find an answer for this question?

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Created by: louisphillippe

3/28/07 @ 10:57am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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OURJEFFIE:YES SIR INDID. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION
BUT I HAVE HAD EVERYTHING IN ORDER FROM THE BEGINNING. I ALSO HAVE A TEAM OF COMPUTER EXPERTS THAT WORK ON MY TRADING COMPUTERS WITH WALL STREET AND THEY FIND NO PROBLEMS ON THIS END OF THE EQUATION.I NEVER HAD PROBLEMS LIKE THESE ON THE TRADING FLOOR OR IT COULD COST ME MILLIONS A MINUTE.
WHAT DID THEY DIAGNOSED? YOU KNOW THE ANSWER ALREADY......LAMBO6.

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Created by: dgtgr

3/28/07 @ 5:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Don't wait a satisfactory reply Appel. Maybe no reply at all.

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Created by: ourjeffie

3/28/07 @ 6:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel, I responded to you in the other thread, which in my opinion is a more appropriate thread for the purpose

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Created by: ourjeffie

3/28/07 @ 11:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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louisphillippe, I also responded to you in the other thread

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Created by: appel

3/29/07 @ 3:49am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel, I responded to you in the other thread, which in my opinion is a more appropriate thread for the purpose

ourjeffie, this is real stupid I think. This threat is going about those shitcams and equipment in SPb.
It seems to me very logical that if you have anything to respond on the questions I aske you in this threat- that you also do give the answers in this threat.
Now I believe that you don't want to resspond in a honest way, because it looks to me now as that you indeed knows that the whole thing stinks.
I realy don't believe that you wouldn't be able anough to understand that in a (legal) busyness everybody should get for what he is paying for.
That would be reale crasy.
So ourjeffie- Who are you? A robbed and cheated member like us- or one of the owners from Flirt?
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Created by: appel

3/29/07 @ 4:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Don't wait a satisfactory reply Appel. Maybe no reply at all.

DGTGR, you never know, so don't lose hope.
It's soon Pentecost, and maybe(?) the Holy Spirit will also enlighten our ourjeffie.
appel.

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3/29/07 @ 6:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: appel

3/29/07 @ 7:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel :
You like to talk about what is logical, and what makes sense
It is logical to me that if we are discussing problems with Flirt4Free software then we discuss that in the thread that deals with problems with Flirt4Free software, not in the thread that deals ith cameras in the Saint Petersburg studios
It makes sense to me that if a number of people are discussing a topic that they all use the same thread to discuss the topic, and not have similar discussions taking place in a number of different threads

ourjeffie, let me tell you what makes sense to me.
Again, in this treat I have always talked about robbing and cheating by Flirt because of the shit cams and equipment in SPB and I never did spoke about the Flirt software- that was somebody els. Besides- the name of the topic is: Shit cams in SPb- remember, you did start this topic under that name. So- it doesn't make any sense to me at all that if I aske you a question about the threat in this topic- that you say: appel- I did respons to you in a other topic, that's absolutely crasy. So again ourjeffie, do we may get that what we are paying for- or not? Give us finely a straight answer- and don't duck again please?
appel.

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3/29/07 @ 11:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: appel

3/29/07 @ 12:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel :
It's unfortunate that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you, or who agrees with you but doesn't agree with your methods, is "crazy" or "ridiculous" or "stupid"
If you are talking whether or not we get what we pay for from Flirt4Free then you are not talking only about guys, you are not talking only about Saint Petersburg, and you are certainly not talking about cameras, you are talking about the Flirt4Free software. This subject is discussed in other threads
You seem to like to say the same thing over and over, but I don't like to repeat myself
appel : I have already answered your question!

ourjeffie, by this you still not have answered my question, besides- I did aske you that question in this topic and not in any other one. One other thing is that we always did talk in this topic about the cams with guys. That's quiet obvious- don't you think? That I always have talked about shit cams and equipment- is because that some of them in SPb realy faile, and not the sofware from Flirt. If that would be thru- why doesn't not every cam which we see on Flirt fail regurly? Can you explane that for me please? And again and over again- Flirt pays those studios, so Flirt can decide for what they are paying for- and not the way around, how many times do I have to repeat that symple fact. But even if it's the Flirt software, and not those shit cams and bad equipment in SPb- why doesn't Flirt improve the software- so we get finely lost from that problem?
I think that they had already more time than anough to do it, and if we look to all the other things they do- anough mony too. Anyway- one way or the other ourjeffie, shitcams and equipment in SPb- or bad Flirt software- which should be the problem like you may think- and I don't believe, as long as if Flirt let us pay for what they so many times don't deliver us, and have no intention to change that- whyle they should, than I do call them robbers and cheaters.
So ourjeffie- since this topic by you is about Flirt software and only Flirt software- which should be the problem, as you maybe think- than tell us: Why doesn't Flirt do anything about that problem, have you any idea? I hope you will this time answer my question.
appel.

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Created by: ourjeffie

3/29/07 @ 7:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel : I told you before, and I tell you now for the last time : I have already answered your question

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Created by: appel

3/30/07 @ 3:55am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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appel : I told you before, and I tell you now for the last time : I have already answered your question

No- you don't have, you'r only avoiding from that!

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Created by: louisphillippe

3/31/07 @ 1:38am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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No- you don't have, you'r only avoiding from that!
OURJEFFIE AND APPLE.
GENTLEMEN: I THINK IT IS TIME TO END THIS DISCUSSION WHICH IS TAKING US NOWHERE FAST. LETS AGREE TO DESAGREE AND FORGET THE WHOLE THING.
NOTHING HAS CHANGE NOR IT EVER WILL. IF YOU LOST MONEY FORGET IT,YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN.
IF YOU LOST CONFIDENCE IN THE SITE LETS GO ELSEWHERE. BEST WAY TO GET RESULTS IS TO HIT THEM WHERE IT REALLY HURTS IN THE POCKETBOOK........
I THINK I MUCH RATHER CHANNEL MY EFFORTS HELPING
WITH MONEY FOOD AND MEDICATIONS THE MODELS I KNOW AND CARE FOR,IN FACT I HAVE VISITED MOST OF THEM AND HAD LUNCH OR DINNER TO KNOW THEIR OPPINIONS AND COMPLAINTS.
DISCUSSING SAMANTHICS AND MEANINGS IS REALLY TAKING US AWAY FROM THE GOAL.AS I SEE IT WE ARE ALL RIGHT AND ALL WRONG. I HAVE SEEN STUDIOS AND MODELS IN BRATISLAVA,PRAGUE,SOPHIA,SPB ETC. AND THE REALITY IS OVERWHELMING. LETS PUT OUR EFFORTS IN WHAT WE BELIVE JUST,FAIR AND NOBLE. I FEEL I'M WINNING MY BATTLE MY WAY.IF WE ALL DO THAT WILL BE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL VERY SOON.IS ANYBODY LISTENING TO YOUR REASONS? NOPE.THE MONEY KEEPS FLOWING IN........

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Created by: ourjeffie

3/31/07 @ 2:57am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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louisphillippe : I agree :thumbsup

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Created by: appel

3/31/07 @ 4:46am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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OURJEFFIE AND APPLE.
GENTLEMEN: I THINK IT IS TIME TO END THIS DISCUSSION WHICH IS TAKING US NOWHERE FAST. LETS AGREE TO DESAGREE AND FORGET THE WHOLE THING.
NOTHING HAS CHANGE NOR IT EVER WILL. IF YOU LOST MONEY FORGET IT,YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN.
IF YOU LOST CONFIDENCE IN THE SITE LETS GO ELSEWHERE. BEST WAY TO GET RESULTS IS TO HIT THEM WHERE IT REALLY HURTS IN THE POCKETBOOK........
I THINK I MUCH RATHER CHANNEL MY EFFORTS HELPING
WITH MONEY FOOD AND MEDICATIONS THE MODELS I KNOW AND CARE FOR,IN FACT I HAVE VISITED MOST OF THEM AND HAD LUNCH OR DINNER TO KNOW THEIR OPPINIONS AND COMPLAINTS.
DISCUSSING SAMANTHICS AND MEANINGS IS REALLY TAKING US AWAY FROM THE GOAL.AS I SEE IT WE ARE ALL RIGHT AND ALL WRONG. I HAVE SEEN STUDIOS AND MODELS IN BRATISLAVA,PRAGUE,SOPHIA,SPB ETC. AND THE REALITY IS OVERWHELMING. LETS PUT OUR EFFORTS IN WHAT WE BELIVE JUST,FAIR AND NOBLE. I FEEL I'M WINNING MY BATTLE MY WAY.IF WE ALL DO THAT WILL BE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL VERY SOON.IS ANYBODY LISTENING TO YOUR REASONS? NOPE.THE MONEY KEEPS FLOWING IN........

I agree with a lot of this, and I told before that there are ways to do something for the models out of sight of Flirt, and believe me I do too. I agee that we all should do, because like you- I don't think FLirt will ever change his practice, alas the whole thing still stinks and will stink in future, but ok let's lieve it and go on with our life.
My best wishes for everybody- ourjeffie, for you too.
appel.

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Created by: bazzuk

4/9/07 @ 12:47pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I take it from Appels broken English that he is Russian so knows what he is talking about with the living conditions in Russia and SpB. BUT:
1. If you choose Capitalism then you get grotesque inequality.
2. There are a lot of desperate people in the West too, Europe as well as USA.
3. I don't have a problem with guys here on F4F doing what they do, so long as they are fairly rewarded and, importantly, they are not coerced into it.
4. I find the SpB cams are mostly fine, but then I like to chat with models more than see their cocks. Maybe I'm an oddity here.

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Created by: brandon2807

4/10/07 @ 3:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I take it from Appels broken English that he is Russian

Hi Guyz!

I'd have guessed appel was French . .

. . AM I RIGHT? OR AM I RIGHT!

:guitar

Remember the forgotten punk classic, Ca Plane Pour Moi . . . by Plastic Bertrand.

Well, there isn't a direct translation for Ca Plane Pour Moi. I've settled on "This life's for me" . .

although it could equally well be "All's well for me",

"This world's for me",

"It works for me",

or just "I'm on a roll".

You get the general idea. He's happy about his life. Possibly in an ironic way . . .

. . . "Tough shit for me"?

:guitar

Yam! Bam! mon chat Splash
Git sur mon lit a bouffe
sa langue en buvant tout mon whisky
quant a moi peu dormi, vide, brime
J'ai du dormir dans la gouttiere
Ou j'ai eu un flash
Oooo-ooo-ooo-ooo!
En quatre couleurs

Ca plane pour moi ca plane pour moi

:smoking

Rough translation:

Wham! Bam! my cat Splash
lies on my bed with his tongue puffed out
by drinking all my whisky.
As for me, not enough sleep, drained, persecuted,
I had to sleep in the gutter
where I had a flash :smoking

Oooo-ooo-ooo-ooo!
in four colours

This life�s for me, this life�s for me

:smoking

So . . do what you can if you can for the models, and realise that you can make a difference whether that be in going private, giving tips, or . . . :winkwink

. . sending the Western Union Man with his "telegram".

Its all good!

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