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for the government no less ourjeffie
5/12/08 @ 6:42pm
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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5/12/08 @ 6:43pm
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
Posts: 45,964
5/12/08 @ 7:59pm
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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ourjeffie the posts are on the same account ;) wise catch! the same person? I wish at times my room mate didn't run up my account! 
As for our opinions of Vova, Dylan once sang "we always saw the same thing we just saw it from a different point of view," if you're psychoanylitical you see sickness, if you're Catholic you see evil. 
Or maybe one of us has had some great times in St Pb and the other has not Conflicting posts? I think not, as I said this guy should channel his energy into creative writing. I have honest affection for Vova, but have stood too close to the fire to be ignorant of how you can get burnt.I have seen schemes hatch, been asked to be an accomplice, walked away and gone back more then once. We have shared a lease, though not the rent, been on week long benders, and said prayers together.Since 2005 everytime I have walked away I have been sucked back in, and realize , FROM MY MISTAKES, how dysfunctional it can all be. Though I caution anyone reading any of this, when you hear the plea ' you must to believe me," that is when you must be most leary. The stories I could tell are not for public posting, but nothing posted by friendly fire is untrue, and the reality of what was posted is only the icing on the cake!
5/13/08 @ 9:40am
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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ourjeffie well the tooth fairy and the government job have the same level of accuracy I am sure! You missed the subtle sarcasm of what I posted, I'm sorry. Trust me, I am not naive, except that bit about the room mate hehhhehhehe, I have stumbled upon models that have already think they have already had extensive conversations with me. Damn it I am trying to agree with the general ideas posted here in a nice way, you know tomAto/tomahto, just be nice. Anyhow, believe what you want. I have said my piece and don't want to steer this thread off topic into two posters arguing about who is telling the truth when the subject matter is a model that does not.
hotjock..LMAO we all have two much time on our hands...thats why we end up here with our cocks in our hand!! I saw the same thing about the number of posts when I went to reply last time. I also want to correct myself, the post by my roomie was months ago, so ourjeffie is right in a way, and for the sake of accuaracy and disclosure, WE NO LONGER SHARE THE ACCOUNT. IN FACT THE TIME THE ACCOUNT WAS SHARED, I guess a better term is to say "compromised." I was breifly ill and out of comission in the hospital a while back and for the sake of bill paying etc, made the HUGE mistake of telling someone where the file of all my passwords to everything was located. As one of the people that feels swindled, there is no love lost between freindlyfire and Vovcha, but then again how smart can a landlord be to hold a piece of prime Waikiki rental property open for a 21 year old Russian? At that point in time, even my email was compromised, and people thought they were "helping" the poor "blind idiot" by stirring shit. Telehone, telegram, tell a fag, nothing better an aging queen likes to do then jump inoto a pot of gossip and help another poor sister by preventing them from making mistakes they only wish they had the chance to make. It comes with the territory. And to get back on topic, EVERYTHING friendlyfire said is/was true. And to make it even clearer, I AM the old fat American Doctor, though I don't relish being described that way any better then when Vovcha's "fetish" in his bio was listed as "short thick man." 
Hell this whole thread started out ridiculously when I got called at home with the "sad news" of the car accident mere days after leaving Russia. I told the caller, "he doesn't drive," (still does not) which is why my first response so long ago was fishing for info while waiting on Vovcha to answer he damn phone! 
I am not defending anyone--when I say things like we shared a lease but not the rent, I think I make it pretty clear that #1 its past tense and #2 no one in Russia got stuck with the bills.Ourjeffie hinted in an earlier post about knowng "more than he was saying." Well he is not the only one, so I am trying to say what I know. After all, divde and conquer is a great way to make any confidence game work easier.
5/14/08 @ 12:46am
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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I AM HE AS YOU ARE HE AS YOU ARE ME AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER 
The hard part has been THAT I AM ALSO YOU OURJEFFIE and you are getting to near the truth now. 
5/14/08 @ 10:25pm
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Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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