w8,

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Lets not get too carried away guyz!

The best advice I can give you is to immdediatley call Customer Support.

They realise that sometimes you just need to get a hold of a real person, that's why they are there for you 24 hours a day.

Phone: 1-800-685-9236 (USA only) International Phone: 1-818-880-9021 (Outside USA)

I tell them what happened, they have a quick look and credit my lost minutes to my account.

Then . . you get straight back on your horse and in you go again!

That is the best way to handle any problems you have . . and just pray you don't lose connexion right at the time of climax. Now that can be a bummer!



With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.

Les Crane, Desiderata



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I tell them what happened, they have a quick look and credit my lost minutes to my account.


HMMMM-when I do that the most I get is about 5 mins-better than nothing--but yes I agree,the moment when disconnected is usually the crucial one ????? Quote

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Thanks w8.

That did just happening to those times I did talk about, but thats cruel for the models to I think.

But calling with a pre-payd from the Netherlands to the VS is very expensif, I think I better can spend that mony on tipping, don't you think.

But thanks again.
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Thanks w8.

But calling with a pre-payd from the Netherlands to the VS is very expensif, I think I better can spend that mony on tipping, don't you think.
But thanks again.


Its sort of a subsidised line appel - so it doesn't cost as much as you would think. For me only a few $$. Its the quickest way to get some action.

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Thanks again Brandon,
you are great.

I don't know, and I don't have to know, but I like to thank that nice guy who did put this discussion on the net. When you type: Flirt 4 Free in your brouwser, you'll find it.

As I told, to protest, my vip-membership ends with the end of this month.

Thanks to you- I, and the rest of the whole world can keep on following this. So, you make my day.

I dont know who you are- even I can think about som names, but again, Thanks, in name of the models too.



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This seems to happen a lot I have had it happen where Video gose u go to refresh and nothing but yr time seems to keep going,which makes it hard bcause u close window than have relogged back in and model still there with time ticking a way.And when i buy at 30min rate all time u seems to lose anything up to five mins each time. Quote

Thanks dbayguy for telling this.

But first, have a nice Christmas- everybody too.

I hope that everybody who had- or will have the same experience, want to tell us. F4F must understand that they swindle us with this practice.

Whyle we are able to stop this to us by canseling our memberschip- the poor models cant, they are just totally depended on our generosity. So let's think about them too.

Anyway, again a nice Christmas to all- and a good start of the next year.

And remember: Do it safe.




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On the last day of my membership I have a last question. I saw members talking about this topic in open rooms and when they watched pvt.
I want to ask them not to do this, to avoid hat the models get expectations- as long we can't garanty them that they will cum thru, thats cruel.
I saw one member saying that fl4fr was overruled. He should never do that there. but let me explane how that works- as it did with my brother's factofy, and as we regurely can read in our papers from other business men.

After a whyle that you have founded your factory, you get visit. They are very nice dressed and they are very friendly to you. They tell you that you have good business, they had already watched that. The only thing is- you need protection, and they are the best qualifyed to do that for you- so you dont need to worry about that some one would steal from you. They will do the job for you, and they are very convincing and they have very strong arguments. Ok, it cost something- but then you have something.

But after a whyle- visit again. Very nice and very friendly for you, because the let you know that you did hire the wrong men for you, they are the bad guys. But you have luck that they warne you in time. And gues, they can help you out, they will take care about everything, you dont need to worry- just leave it to them. They are the best quallifyed for.
Ok, it cost a litle extra- but than you have something extra.

Later they will tell you that you have a nice business- but will you grow, then you need a partner. But don't worry- they know the perfect one for you, and he can do all the difficult paperwork for you too. You don't need to worry about that too anymore. Well, then it's time to get the hell out of theire.

Nothing in Russia happens without control by the mob or the SFB. [The National Security Force, the former KGB]

From the start of this topic- within I did a lot of sugestions and accusations, untill now- there is no respons from fl4fr on this.
So, who is Brad, is there a Brad and what is Brad doing? But maybe there is no Brad- and there is an Iwan.
Who is Jamy? Is there a Jamy and what is he doing?
Maybe there is no Jamy- but there is a Petrov?
Neither, from an Iwan or a Petrov I expect any reaction, ofcours not. But who runs this business?

At this moment, there are only in London more than 200 Russion multy millionares, how many will there be in Spain, Italy and other sonny countrys. And they all invest mony. In socker teams, paying the wages for our fames Gus H. who is training the nationall sockerteam of Rusia, etc, etc. What do they invest in the VS?

I could go on with this. But let me end with that robbed poor litle chicken with his broken wing and crying for help- as I found him, and started this topic with. The kid is back on his feet. I don't tell you how much time I did spend on him to talk to him in pvt, or what did happen there- besides he had to do all the work for himself by himself, thats no one's business, exept for his last pvt this year with me.

The first thing I did see- was the covering of his bandage with a nice red collared thing, so it didn't look anymore like he just came out of the hospital, but more like a sport attrebut, so he was looking after himself again. We started again talking and he showed me the piece of paper where on he had written the poem that I had sent him before, and ran for a micro- because I wanted that to heare in Russian from him, we both love poetry very much. After long time talking about that- and back in his open room, just before I was to say goodye to him, he said: Appel I have a last question, may I ask? I, only if it's a decent one, ha ha. He, Appel, may I cum. I, only if you feel comforteble with me, you know- thats the conditio cine qua non. He, Appel, I always feel comfoteble with you, that's why ask. This time I did not hear a sad litle voice like once before: Appel may I cum, I, A... only if you feel....And he,I do. This time- pang, trough twoo flat screens and more then 2400 km in between came his voice to me, and I heared bells in it and music, this was a vivid voice.
Later, when we said goodby, and he- without I did ask him for- did bend over to the cam, his eyes wide open- so I had a good look on them, and he blew his kiss to me- he made me my finest moment of my 3 month membership.

Now I hope that he has no longer have to fight the memerys, like I had when I saw him the first time, they did lay their tentakels again around my throat- pretty heavy, not the memmery on the black eye I had once- after a fool nocked me flat down to the ground too, you can live with that, and Arkens broken wrist will be better soon, but the feelings- who make you tell yourself that it was your own fault, and that you blame your self for being there when it did happen or that you didn't take care anough. Those feeling are very bad for you, they make you realy sick. When I saw him there- they made me very angry again.

I want to thank Brandon very much for his warm support, you are great.
Also all the others who dit tell there storys, thanks.

I wish everybody a nice year change and a good start in 2007.



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thank you appel for your kind words and thoughts-sorry to lose you as a VIP-but understand your reasons!!-good luck for 2007-and hope to see you in the chat rooms--HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU Quote

Thanks w8.

Happy New Year to you and yours.
As you shall understand, my New Year will be a good one.

appel.

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I want to thank Brandon very much for his warm support, you are great.


wow! That was from the heart there appel, what a magic moment.

And a wonderful way to remember.

I know what you say about Russia is fairly close to the truth, I've seen it with my own eyes. But take comfort in the fact that you are making a difference!

You will still be able to come in to Flirt by logging in via the Registered User Log in and using your Registered Name and Password! And you can still buy time for privates etc.

2007 is going to be a great year for us all . . . I can feel it in my water!

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Here I am again, because while no longer member for a whyle, I saw again cams from SPb drop dead in pvt.

Even it was no pvt I was in, its still a shame.

In my opinion- fl4fr should do much better if they forces the studio's there to invest in better equipment, than in the new vidiosystem.

What's the benefit for us whith that new system if the cams in SPb regurly drop dead, and so many models are working in studio's there, thats bulshit.

Besides that- Brandon's good sugestion to tip the models dont work when the cams drop dead, becaus tipping you mostly do at the end of theire performence whyle you and your model takes 5 to talk togetter.

But with a dead cam you cant do that, so its not only bad for you- but for the model too, and that is worse.

So this dicussion has to go on in my opinion untill something changes with the equipment in SPb, and this is far more importand than the question who will be the model of the month for instance.

So again, I want to ask everybody for help by talking here if you have the same experiance with a dead cam.

If this will help to change- than you help not only yourself, but the models too, and this way- it doesn't cost us anything extra.
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It seems that everythings go's ok, no reports of dead cams in pvt.

But still- I saw som yesterday.

What's the usu of a new vidio-system- if fl4fr cant deliver us always pvt's with good working cams?

That's completely bulshit!

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I don't know about other members, but finely I would like to see some reaction from VS-Jamie or from Brad who make sence on al this.

I am very curious. Are they all so agree with all what I do tell here on this forum- in different topics, or do they rather keep silent and like to act like they don't know anyhing?

Untill now I haven't see anything from them.



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And still nothing from them.

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Hi, I had the same thing happen to me. Of course, the connection lost just as Columbie was about to unload! It happens, I guess. I did report it, and they credited me two min. Haven't had the problem again, though. I hope you don't have the problem again either.
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