@ Zach
Jake and DP are buddies. They will always side with each other. They represent only themselves and no one else.
Jake is defending his buddy model who has got himself into a mess here by discussing a private matter in public. They may have talked about this thread in one of their open room sales conversations. 
stop defending yourself. No rules have been broken and the models know this.You have nothing to be sorry for. If you were so bad then F4F would have banned you. Continue as you like. Dont go to those rooms that do not welcome you.
"There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
Perhaps she'll die.
There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die.
There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
How absurd, to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die
There was an old lady who swallowed a cat.
Imagine that, she swallowed a cat.
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die
There was an old lady who swallowed a dog.
What a hog! To swallow a dog!
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.
There was an old lady who swallowed a goat.
Just opened her throat and swallowed a goat!
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog ...
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat.
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.
There was an old lady who swallowed a cow.
I don't know how she swallowed a cow!
She swallowed the cow to catch the goat...
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog...
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.
There was an old lady who swallowed a horse -
She's dead, of course."
When I was a kid, my mom would sing this song to remind me that a stupid action/word/thought/misdeed once in a while was one thing....but when you keep repeating the stupid action/word/thought/misdeed, you just spiral out of control which only leads to nonsense. Most of these posts are just nonsense at this point. Here's the chain of events: 1) A member posts about a gripe he has with another model in both the VIP and Gay Fantasies boards in a different thread recently. 2) Same member then posts a similar thread (this one) about where he can find the same fetish. 3) A 20 year old model doesn't sugar coat his words & tries to give some pointed advice to the member about why he doesn't seem to be able to find what he's looking for. Let's think logically for a second--were ANY of us perfect at 20 years old? Could we all phrase things perfectly while trying to get across a positive point? No. I'm not defending the model. Just being direct and pointing out a truth about life. 20 year olds aren't perfect, however positive the intent of their words are. 4) Members jump all over 20 year old model and act like 13 year olds, trying to shred him to pieces. Classy. 5) 20yo model tries to sincerely apologize. 6) Members attack him more. (shakes head in sadness). 7) A few members offer LOGICAL and thoughtful responses in defense of the challenge that is taking place in this thread. 8) The member gets even more defensive. 9) Another model--who is VERY well regarded on F4F and who is ALWAYS logical, direct, thoughtful and respectful, posts a RESPECTFUL response. Defending no one or anything in particular. 10) Another member decides to chirp in and chide a model about setting "dangerous precedent"--failing to recognize that both this topic and the first member's "airing of laundry" against a well-regarded model have now been posted about in TWO forums, in MULTIPLE threads recently...and started by that member--not a model. Also the member from item #10 mentions the evils of members and models starting threads to air grievances...and then promptly says, "Why shouldn't I if that is what other members and models are doing?" (instead of saying something positive such as "I don't like that sort of behavior, so I won't conduct myself in that manner." Rather, gives a "what's good for the goose is good for the gander sort of logic). Same member then proceeds to passively aggressively attack the well-regarded model (the second performer who posted in this ridiculous thread). 11) Same member then posts about what he believes is just a case of model friends defending model friends--despite the fact that he doesn't know if the two models are even friends to begin with. (Trust me--some models that you think are the greatest of friends, actually hate each other. Some that you think hate each other are actually the best of friends. Usually best to assume anything in life. Not saying that this is the case here--just pointing out a truism of real life and F4F.) 12) I announce that I like Oreo milkshakes and Swiss cheese in an awesome attempt (grin) to show how ludicrous and child-like most of this thread is. An aside: I really do love Oreo milkshakes and Swiss cheese. Further, why can't we add home delivery of Oreo milkshakes to our Wishlists?!!?? hehe
Here's the takeaways: 1) Never post anything in an open forum that attacks others (whether on F4F or other social media sites, etc.). It only provides a platform for others to feel superior or judge others. You'll notice that I did not use names. One's immediate response may be, "But you quoted members/models!!!!" That leads me into my 2nd point actually....2) When you post ANYTHING online, it is there for eternity. So never post something when you are mad, angry, etc., because there is no taking it back. It leaves a footprint. Best to write your thoughts out on paper...then crumple it up and throw it away. 99% of the time, angry posts only lead to further angry posts by others--and most people with an ounce of soul, typically regret what they write online when it is against a fellow human being. 3) NEVER defend yourself on an open threaded board. Why? Because people are always looking for an excuse to keep the "issue" alive so that it feeds their ego, keeps the drama alive, and other people will either come to your defense (which again, only keeps the issue alive and growing and feeding upon itself) or agree with the angry thoughts (which again, only keeps the issue alive and growing and feeding upon itself. LOL)
The whole thing started when someone when someone basically stupidly swallowed a fly. Now so many people are being swallowed whole by old lady drama, we're half a hoof away from swallowing the horse as well and beating it to death. I'd like to think we're all better than this. I'm going to offer to apologize for the GROUP for EVERY thought on this ENTIRE thread that could even possibly or remotely be taken in an negative manner. It's time to act like adults and move on from this tirade.
Therefore--NO ONE needs to respond ANY MORE to this thread. Let is die, please.
Now, let's all go have some fun and enjoy the rest of the day with a positive spirit and some licorice in our grubby little hands.
--AF
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