ok, here's something i would like to ask alot of you models on here, since when have the moderators on flirt started automatically logging models off the site if they go 3 hrs without a pvt? has this always been going on or is it something new? the reason i ask this is because earlier today my favorite model was logged off because he had gone 3 hrs without a pvt. all of us who were in the room felt that it was a total disrespect not only for us that were there, but for the model most of all, not to mention we were outraged when this happened. any and all information involving this would be greatly appreciated. Quote

I first heard of it within the past week. Don't have any more info though. Quote

out of curiosity, what would u do with the information? Quote

out of curiosity, what would u do with the information?



Some members have question which peak our curiousity---and we simply want an answer which satisfies that curiousity.

Just my Quote

Yes this change was brought in recently, but one that is for the better for reasons I won�t go into.

Do you know that models don�t get paid for free chat? Remember that the models are here to work. If somebody had taken him private for even 1 or 2 minutes the clock would have reset and he wouldn�t have been booted.

I hope that helps! Quote

Okay seems a few of you are unclear about what and why this is happening I will add what Brad said to one VIP member in past regarding this.


"We have a new process running on the site today which sends an alert to the performer (not visible to customers) when they have been online for more than an hour without a show. The text of the message is in orange and reads as follows:
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"Administrator (whisper): You have not had a paid show in ___ minutes. You may be kicked offline if you exceed 180 minutes without a show!"




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We found that at certain times of the day there are more performers online than necessary and those performers in the bottom 50% (based on sales) get this warning message if they exceed 1 hour in open without a show.

We're not booting anyone with this script (yet), but the rules in the script currently are 3-hours without a show! That's a very long time.





It shows that we're working hard to make the system better for the performers who contribute so much to the site and the performers that so many customers in these forums are fans of.

Spend enough time in the chat or reading the log files and you'll see many of these bottom 50% performers not paying attention to their room, completely off camera or not interested in privates and trying instead to lure customers to Yahoo or MSN for direct shows. Not good.

If you're online for 3-hours without a show; something is wrong.


Thanks and have a great day!

Brad






Okay I will add my point of view on this and It may seem bad they do this at 1st to people that have not been on this site or this type of site long enough to understand why sites like this have put this type of system in-place, not just this site has this type of system to add.

The reasons are as Brad said above, also I have seen many other reasons why this sort of system will incourage performers to "perform" and not sit there sharing personal information and other information not relevant to the chat and the business. Yes remember it's a business here and not a online messenger service like yahoo for example. This site has to pay for bandwidth and for systems that are in-place and needs to be funded if a perfomer makes no privates (money) how does their room pay to be online ? Also many performers seem to think they can come online and sleep or not chat at all recently too, as we know non-chatting performers also = no privates so this system highlights to these performers that they need to change their style. It's not a free ride on any of these sites, put yourself in a situation of hiring someone and all they do is ignore your customers or worse come online and be disrespectful to your customers. It happens all the time on these sites, not saying all perfomers do this but there is the odd bad apple and this system will also filter them out, aswell as the % system they have in place if they don't do enough privates in a set time they are ask to move on too.


Okay I hope this explains these so called new changes they are not that new, just you have not noticed them because they are hidden from the customer end and the general model online does not see them or does not need to worry about them because they are good perfomers and make a decent amount of privates. As a customer if you want to help a performer from being booted or seeing these messages take them private for a short while in each shift and that way you get to enjoy their company and the room stays active longer.


Regards

Nabil Quote

thanks for the detailed response nabil, this was actually a first it's happened in that model's room and many of us were surprised wondering why he had been logged off, i will take note of this.

as for the person who asked what i would do with given information, indeed it was out of curiosity wanting to know what was going on, it's only human nature to want to know. Quote

OMG (that's "Oh my gosh!"), Nabil, are you sure this leak of insider information won't get you in trouble? After all, I haven't been privy to such VIP knowledge in quite a few years. Hey, I PROMISE I won't repeat it...wouldn't want super-secret-Brad info to become COMMON knowledge. Quote

Underperforming employees are liable to be booted in any business

Models have always been booted, either by Flirt4Free or by their studio, if they had insufficient private minutes

The new arrangement simply formalises this ... models get a warning after 1 hour without a private and get booted after 3 hours without a private


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OMG (that's "Oh my gosh!"), Nabil, are you sure this leak of insider information won't get you in trouble? After all, I haven't been privy to such VIP knowledge in quite a few years. Hey, I PROMISE I won't repeat it...wouldn't want super-secret-Brad info to become COMMON knowledge.



It's not a secret Tom, just most users have not noticed it and good reason they have not is because like I said most of the models don't see it or have nothing to worry about regarding this system and most models have worked under such systems on other sites so not new to them. Brad mentioned it on the general VIP area that's where the information is from.


Regards

Nabil Quote

Underperforming employees are liable to be booted in any business

Models have always been booted, either by Flirt4Free or by their studio, if they had insufficient private minutes

The new arrangement simply formalises this ... models get a warning after 1 hour without a private and get booted after 3 hours without a private







Exactly .. we all have to show how we perform at our jobs, no matter what job it is.
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ok, here's something i would like to ask alot of you models on here, since when have the moderators on flirt started automatically logging models off the site if they go 3 hrs without a pvt?


LoL.. I think you just answered your own question ;)


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ok, here's something i would like to ask alot of you models on here, since when have the moderators on flirt started automatically logging models off the site if they go 3 hrs without a pvt? has this always been going on or is it something new? the reason i ask this is because earlier today my favorite model was logged off because he had gone 3 hrs without a pvt. all of us who were in the room felt that it was a total disrespect not only for us that were there, but for the model most of all, not to mention we were outraged when this happened. any and all information involving this would be greatly appreciated.



Humm... I was kicked off the other day too.. I didn't have time to say bye to anybody then I get all these emails from customers asking wtf happened?! Its pretty irritating I think, not only that I couldnt log back on till the next day! It was a waste of my time Quote

Humm... I was kicked off the other day too.. I didn't have time to say bye to anybody then I get all these emails from customers asking wtf happened?! Its pretty irritating I think, not only that I couldnt log back on till the next day! It was a waste of my time



*With tongue in cheek* I think it may be interesting for you to tell us if this flood of emails sent to you was through the flirt system, or....on yahoo, msn etc etc....LMAO Quote

*With tongue in cheek* I think it may be interesting for you to tell us if this flood of emails sent to you was through the flirt system, or....on yahoo, msn etc etc....LMAO



Flirt system.. thank you Quote

Not trying to sound rude just saying how it is:

have seen these msgs before and its for the bttm 50% of performers. i saw them when i first got back from my 4 month vacation from flirt. took me 2 nights to get above the top 50% i logged the pvt time that it took and its not that much. and personally if u really like that model and want them to not get booted take them pvt. cause if they get pvt time then they dont get booted. its a good system teaching models to pay attention to the mood of the site and know when the dead times are and when the action times are. during dead times there should be few models on and doing the hot times of the day there should be more models on. if any model wants to msg me and ask me how i got from the bttm 50% shoot me a msg and i will answer it Quote

I've been off and on all day, everytime i was on there were atleast 3 pages of models. all though i was on the first page everytime. all the models online at once is killing the traffic in our other peoples rooms, unfortunetly.

hopefully we can resolve this issue soon

if i dont start picking up on customers im gonna have to move on from flirt Quote