sex-spert said he has not lied then said. The Democrats had control of Congress during the Eisenhower administration. I have posted references (including the US Senate page) showing the Republicans controlled congress for 1 year of the Eisenhower administration. So your comment " The Democrats had control of Congress during the Eisenhower administration" is a PROVEN lie.




Best way to make a point if you don't have a point ... just make one up ... its called an alternative FACT!

Each of you are easily refuted. Mini first....
They do not have totally opposite views, really. Trump's trying to do the right things for his country, just like Lincoln. One of the biggest reasons Lincoln decided to run for office in the first place was that he was concerned about how things were going in this nation, he could see things were just not right, so he wanted to run to make a positive difference for the country. And he did. Trump could see things were going horribly and how badly Obama had fucked the nation in so many ways, and he wanted to get to the presidency to make a huge positive difference and reverse all the damage that Obama has caused. (And don't tell me he has NOT caused damage to this nation, because you know he has). Trump IS for equality and just because he wants a wall built at the border to protect us from criminals and to reestablish our SOVEREIGNTY as a nation (which is common sense), does NOT MEAN HE HATES HISPANICS or anyone else. Get that through your THICK skull. I will add, it is NOT fair to those hispanics who have tried to become citizens of this nation the RIGHT way, getting in a very LONG line and going through the proper procedures just to become citizens, to watch those who came in the WRONG way being processed right away and becoming citizens instantly because of an unconstitutional execute order. The ones who tried to do it the right way RESENT that, as they should. So Trump is right to reverse this BS and he will continue to reverse the idiocy of the previous administration.
And the ban is a ban on certain middle eastern nations, the SAME BAN that Obama had on his list. It is not a specific Muslim ban. There are plenty of people who are from those nations who are not specifically Muslim. There's nothing wrong with the ban, and when the appeal goes to the Supreme Court, they will reverse the previous judgment.
Comparing what Obama did to splashing people in a pool is ridiculous. ALL of his executive orders were unconstitutional, which is why Trump is reversing each and every one of them. The Constitution does NOT SAY the White House can issue constant executive orders just to get everything he wants on every issue. The Founders wanted to make sure that we did not have a king or a dictator, which is why they wrote the Constitution the way they wrote it. Obama was the perfect example of a dictator, always going around Congress and the courts. And he was the first one to have done that, just to get his way. Presidents don't always get their way on every issue. Even Reagan didn't get his way on EVERY issue, some things he was not able to get. But that's the way it goes sometimes. They have to learn to live with that sort of disappointment.
Trump is right to reverse all of Obama's policies. He is doing exactly that, but not MORE than that.
Alb, you will argue against everything written in every link I post because you have an inalterable LIBERAL view. So what would be the point of my listing more links? You're just going to argue against every fact and every statement in the links no matter what the link is about. I could say the grass is green and you would STILL argue and say the grass is purple.
And how about the man, Obama, who is full of narcism and egoism who always acts only for his own interests and twisted socialist views? He has been saying that even though he's not in the White House anymore, he will lobby and rail against everything our president does. He's an arrogant bastard.
WRONG Kert, the MEDIA invents FAKE news all the time. Especially if they think it will make Trump look bad.
Arch, once again YOU DON'T GET IT. Twisting and misinterpreting what I say. The Democrats DID HAVE CONTROL OF CONGRESS for MOST of Eisenhower's term, SIX YEARS. That's the ;point i was making. It's a PROVEN TRUTH that you ignore. Compare those TWO years of GOP control to the Democrats having complete control of the government for OVER 20 YEARS, and DO THE MATH. WHICH party had complete control for a much longer period of time, the GOP or the Democrats? It's simple math that tells you the Democrats had control for much longer, but you refuse to believe that fact.

Well folks, there ya have it. Spurt tells his truths. Anyone who says otherwise is just Fake News.

There is clearly no reaching him with actual logic and he debates adult topics like a chiId screaming "Nuhuu, you are!" rather than backing up his statements to show why they are correct. There is no point in arguing, so until he learns to discuss and debate politics like an adult without name calling and tantrums, I'm done with Mr spurt. Good day to you.

To the rest of you I look forward to discussing the current situation in America with sane people.

Well folks, there ya have it. Spurt tells his truths. Anyone who says otherwise is just Fake News.

There is clearly no reaching him with actual logic and he debates adult topics like a chiId screaming "Nuhuu, you are!" rather than backing up his statements to show why they are correct. There is no point in arguing, so until he learns to discuss and debate politics like an adult without name calling and tantrums, I'm done with Mr spurt. Good day to you.

To the rest of you I look forward to discussing the current situation in America with sane people.



Just say a prayer for the victims of the Sweden events last friday

Each of you are easily refuted. Mini first....
They do not have totally opposite views, really. Trump's trying to do the right things for his country, just like Lincoln. One of the biggest reasons Lincoln decided to run for office in the first place was that he was concerned about how things were going in this nation, he could see things were just not right, so he wanted to run to make a positive difference for the country. And he did. Trump could see things were going horribly and how badly Obama had fucked the nation in so many ways, and he wanted to get to the presidency to make a huge positive difference and reverse all the damage that Obama has caused. (And don't tell me he has NOT caused damage to this nation, because you know he has). Trump IS for equality and just because he wants a wall built at the border to protect us from criminals and to reestablish our SOVEREIGNTY as a nation (which is common sense), does NOT MEAN HE HATES HISPANICS or anyone else. Get that through your THICK skull. I will add, it is NOT fair to those hispanics who have tried to become citizens of this nation the RIGHT way, getting in a very LONG line and going through the proper procedures just to become citizens, to watch those who came in the WRONG way being processed right away and becoming citizens instantly because of an unconstitutional execute order. The ones who tried to do it the right way RESENT that, as they should. So Trump is right to reverse this BS and he will continue to reverse the idiocy of the previous administration.
And the ban is a ban on certain middle eastern nations, the SAME BAN that Obama had on his list. It is not a specific Muslim ban. There are plenty of people who are from those nations who are not specifically Muslim. There's nothing wrong with the ban, and when the appeal goes to the Supreme Court, they will reverse the previous judgment.
Comparing what Obama did to splashing people in a pool is ridiculous. ALL of his executive orders were unconstitutional, which is why Trump is reversing each and every one of them. The Constitution does NOT SAY the White House can issue constant executive orders just to get everything he wants on every issue. The Founders wanted to make sure that we did not have a king or a dictator, which is why they wrote the Constitution the way they wrote it. Obama was the perfect example of a dictator, always going around Congress and the courts. And he was the first one to have done that, just to get his way. Presidents don't always get their way on every issue. Even Reagan didn't get his way on EVERY issue, some things he was not able to get. But that's the way it goes sometimes. They have to learn to live with that sort of disappointment.
Trump is right to reverse all of Obama's policies. He is doing exactly that, but not MORE than that.
Alb, you will argue against everything written in every link I post because you have an inalterable LIBERAL view. So what would be the point of my listing more links? You're just going to argue against every fact and every statement in the links no matter what the link is about. I could say the grass is green and you would STILL argue and say the grass is purple.
And how about the man, Obama, who is full of narcism and egoism who always acts only for his own interests and twisted socialist views? He has been saying that even though he's not in the White House anymore, he will lobby and rail against everything our president does. He's an arrogant bastard.
WRONG Kert, the MEDIA invents FAKE news all the time. Especially if they think it will make Trump look bad.
Arch, once again YOU DON'T GET IT. Twisting and misinterpreting what I say. The Democrats DID HAVE CONTROL OF CONGRESS for MOST of Eisenhower's term, SIX YEARS. That's the ;point i was making. It's a PROVEN TRUTH that you ignore. Compare those TWO years of GOP control to the Democrats having complete control of the government for OVER 20 YEARS, and DO THE MATH. WHICH party had complete control for a much longer period of time, the GOP or the Democrats? It's simple math that tells you the Democrats had control for much longer, but you refuse to believe that fact.




of course its easy to refute us, its easy to refute anything when you simply say you have refuted it. What a dumb ass u are, FACTS do you understand the word?
fact: fakt/Submit: noun; a thing that is known or PROVED to be true.
It's not true because you said so, it's more often than not, NOT TRUE if it comes out of the mouth of Thump or one of his cronies . If you would like evidence with PROOF its easy to find.
Trump doesn't need the media to make him look bad and incredibly stupid, he does that all by himself, they just have to report the FACTS in glorious colour with audio, dumb Donald will provide evidence free of charge! Wonder why he gets great ratings, it's like watching bad reality TV, a car crash in motion! And you Squirt should not talk about thick skulls, because you are the King of Thickness!

Kertzum, thank you, for saying what you did to me. I appreciate it. I wish more people, who are on here were like that by recognizing them. This is another post for some people, who have posted in this thread including Spert. I've said this, but it's appropriate to say, again. If anyone hasn't thought of going back to any of the pages to look, and read anything what the people have posted in this thread, then maybe, they should. I haven't posted to directly one person in all of my posts in the thread.

Each of you are easily refuted. Mini first....
They do not have totally opposite views, really. Trump's trying to do the right things for his country, just like Lincoln. One of the biggest reasons Lincoln decided to run for office in the first place was that he was concerned about how things were going in this nation, he could see things were just not right, so he wanted to run to make a positive difference for the country. And he did. Trump could see things were going horribly and how badly Obama had fucked the nation in so many ways, and he wanted to get to the presidency to make a huge positive difference and reverse all the damage that Obama has caused. (And don't tell me he has NOT caused damage to this nation, because you know he has). Trump IS for equality and just because he wants a wall built at the border to protect us from criminals and to reestablish our SOVEREIGNTY as a nation (which is common sense), does NOT MEAN HE HATES HISPANICS or anyone else. Get that through your THICK skull. I will add, it is NOT fair to those hispanics who have tried to become citizens of this nation the RIGHT way, getting in a very LONG line and going through the proper procedures just to become citizens, to watch those who came in the WRONG way being processed right away and becoming citizens instantly because of an unconstitutional execute order. The ones who tried to do it the right way RESENT that, as they should. So Trump is right to reverse this BS and he will continue to reverse the idiocy of the previous administration.
And the ban is a ban on certain middle eastern nations, the SAME BAN that Obama had on his list. It is not a specific Muslim ban. There are plenty of people who are from those nations who are not specifically Muslim. There's nothing wrong with the ban, and when the appeal goes to the Supreme Court, they will reverse the previous judgment.
Comparing what Obama did to splashing people in a pool is ridiculous. ALL of his executive orders were unconstitutional, which is why Trump is reversing each and every one of them. The Constitution does NOT SAY the White House can issue constant executive orders just to get everything he wants on every issue. The Founders wanted to make sure that we did not have a king or a dictator, which is why they wrote the Constitution the way they wrote it. Obama was the perfect example of a dictator, always going around Congress and the courts. And he was the first one to have done that, just to get his way. Presidents don't always get their way on every issue. Even Reagan didn't get his way on EVERY issue, some things he was not able to get. But that's the way it goes sometimes. They have to learn to live with that sort of disappointment.
Trump is right to reverse all of Obama's policies. He is doing exactly that, but not MORE than that.
Alb, you will argue against everything written in every link I post because you have an inalterable LIBERAL view. So what would be the point of my listing more links? You're just going to argue against every fact and every statement in the links no matter what the link is about. I could say the grass is green and you would STILL argue and say the grass is purple.
And how about the man, Obama, who is full of narcism and egoism who always acts only for his own interests and twisted socialist views? He has been saying that even though he's not in the White House anymore, he will lobby and rail against everything our president does. He's an arrogant bastard.
WRONG Kert, the MEDIA invents FAKE news all the time. Especially if they think it will make Trump look bad.
Arch, once again YOU DON'T GET IT. Twisting and misinterpreting what I say. The Democrats DID HAVE CONTROL OF CONGRESS for MOST of Eisenhower's term, SIX YEARS. That's the ;point i was making. It's a PROVEN TRUTH that you ignore. Compare those TWO years of GOP control to the Democrats having complete control of the government for OVER 20 YEARS, and DO THE MATH. WHICH party had complete control for a much longer period of time, the GOP or the Democrats? It's simple math that tells you the Democrats had control for much longer, but you refuse to believe that fact.



Again a full pile of BS
As you don't understand simple words like facts and the difference between facts and assertions I switch back to your level.
Once more you did just bla bla bla

Just say a prayer for the victims of the Sweden events last friday

Well not even Half way there, you are clearly DONE with the truth. That's your choice. I'm not a ch1ld, I have listed facts that DO back up everything I say, you just refuse to listen to the facts. Apparently you can't even do simple math. What number is LARGER, six or 22? It's simple math that proves the Dems had more control than the GOP EVER did. Maybe you should go back to watching Sesame Street. I have ALWAYS debated and discussed like an adult and there's apparently no reaching YOU with logic. SO I am done with YOU. I noticed you didn't refute my logic about the way Obama operates, the length of the Democrat's reign, the reasons Lincoln and Trump got involved in the first place, etc. because you could NOT refute any of it. You just come back with charges of immaturity. Shows you have no substance anyway.
This BLA BLA BLA, Alb, are merely truths that you can't handle. Or perhaps you're not smart enough to understand my explanations and my arguments. Which wouldn't surprise me.
So KertDUM dumbass, you and others said, just because Trump has said something doesn't make it true. I would like to say, just because the MEDIA says something is true doesn't make it true. Have you ever thought of that?? Just because the liberal press and media make a statement or assertion, does NOT MAKE IT TRUE. It probably makes it a lie. They like to lie a lot. The media has an agenda all their own.
I have always discussed issues like an adult.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443472/barack-obama-failure-trump-opportunity
http://www.na tionalreview.com/article/442859/barack-obamas-promises-failed-his-presidential-legacy-suffers

Well not even Half way there, you are clearly DONE with the truth. That's your choice. I'm not a ch1ld, I have listed facts that DO back up everything I say, you just refuse to listen to the facts. Apparently you can't even do simple math. What number is LARGER, six or 22? It's simple math that proves the Dems had more control than the GOP EVER did. Maybe you should go back to watching Sesame Street. I have ALWAYS debated and discussed like an adult and there's apparently no reaching YOU with logic. SO I am done with YOU. I noticed you didn't refute my logic about the way Obama operates, the length of the Democrat's reign, the reasons Lincoln and Trump got involved in the first place, etc. because you could NOT refute any of it. You just come back with charges of immaturity. Shows you have no substance anyway.
This BLA BLA BLA, Alb, are merely truths that you can't handle. Or perhaps you're not smart enough to understand my explanations and my arguments. Which wouldn't surprise me.
So KertDUM dumbass, you and others said, just because Trump has said something doesn't make it true. I would like to say, just because the MEDIA says something is true doesn't make it true. Have you ever thought of that?? Just because the liberal press and media make a statement or assertion, does NOT MAKE IT TRUE. It probably makes it a lie. They like to lie a lot. The media has an agenda all their own.
I have always discussed issues like an adult.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443472/barack-obama-failure-trump-opportunity
http:// www.nationalreview.com/article/442859/barack-obamas-promises-failed-his-presidential-legacy-suffers





the difference between you and me is that I'd scrutinise the media, you on the other hand simply swallow whatever crap Trump serves you. Another distinct difference between you and me is when I call BS I provide evidence you on the flip side just makes blanket statements with no evidence at all, generally because you have none (as per your last post, please quote where the MAINSTREAM MEDIA have fabricated content). You have hardly refuted one thing I have claimed because you are unable to, mainly because dumb, uncontrollable Donald has himself dug a hole ... ON CAMERA or in a stupid TWEET mind you!

The other thing you cant seem to get your head around is that most people wouldn't dispute the fact that things need to change, that is a fact. The problem people like me are having is the idiotic way Thump is trying to effect that change, it is clumsy and confrontational and will have long term outcomes that no one can predict. And you can sure as hell bet Dumb Donald has not given any thought to the GLOBAL consequences of his rantings and lies, he will eventually make an error that none of his people will be able to patch up, my bet is that will be the case with Russia who truly have his number (which makes it all the more scary). You need to take a reality pill, while you think your grand, fearless leader is forging ahead with some great design for your future, he is actually digging you a shallow grave.

I posted two additional links in my post because I wanted to show why I have said the things I have said about the Obama administration. I don't suppose you would check them out because you probably don't want to.
It certainly doesn't look to me as though you scrutinize the media. You buy everything they say hook, LIE and sinker. I'd love to give this example....
How many times have we heard it said that the Russians hacked the election process and caused Trump to win? You know how all that BS started? Trump was talking about Hillary's suddenly lost emails (thousands of them), and he said, "Hey, maybe someone can get the Russians to hack into the Democrat's email system and maybe the Russians will find all those emails. Maybe the Russians are the ones who deleted all the emails." It's called being SARCASTIC. He was toying with the media because they are so damn gullible. The media, totally missing the SARCASM, thought he was serious. Eventually it turned into, WOW the Russians cheated, stole the election for Trump, and hacked everything.
There is NO proof that Trump's team and the Russians worked hand in hand to cause Trump to win and Hillary to lose.
I have certainly refuted your false statements and will continue to. I love the phrase that one individual coined, the LAMESTREAM Media. That is very appropriate and accurate.
You are RIGHT, things DO need to change, especially after the destruction of the last eight years. I'm glad to read you're saying that. Trump is charging ahead with the right kind of change in his executive orders, proposed legislation, and keeping his promises. The people voted for him to do all the things he is wanting to do.
And you know the vast majority of his tweets are merely countering the media, and defending himself and his administration against the media. If he wants to defend himself against the BS from the media, I'm fine with that. We were in the most dangerous and vulnerable places with the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration.

What to say, what to say...

So good ol' Sessions made his grand entry on the stage with a principled ( )

defense of state's rights as they pertain to bathrooms.

Makes me kind of long for the days when Republicans were fixated on flag burning.

I posted two additional links in my post because I wanted to show why I have said the things I have said about the Obama administration. I don't suppose you would check them out because you probably don't want to.
It certainly doesn't look to me as though you scrutinize the media. You buy everything they say hook, LIE and sinker. I'd love to give this example....
How many times have we heard it said that the Russians hacked the election process and caused Trump to win? You know how all that BS started? Trump was talking about Hillary's suddenly lost emails (thousands of them), and he said, "Hey, maybe someone can get the Russians to hack into the Democrat's email system and maybe the Russians will find all those emails. Maybe the Russians are the ones who deleted all the emails." It's called being SARCASTIC. He was toying with the media because they are so damn gullible. The media, totally missing the SARCASM, thought he was serious. Eventually it turned into, WOW the Russians cheated, stole the election for Trump, and hacked everything.
There is NO proof that Trump's team and the Russians worked hand in hand to cause Trump to win and Hillary to lose.
I have certainly refuted your false statements and will continue to. I love the phrase that one individual coined, the LAMESTREAM Media. That is very appropriate and accurate.
You are RIGHT, things DO need to change, especially after the destruction of the last eight years. I'm glad to read you're saying that. Trump is charging ahead with the right kind of change in his executive orders, proposed legislation, and keeping his promises. The people voted for him to do all the things he is wanting to do.
And you know the vast majority of his tweets are merely countering the media, and defending himself and his administration against the media. If he wants to defend himself against the BS from the media, I'm fine with that. We were in the most dangerous and vulnerable places with the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration.


Quote the article, the publication, the agency and show the exact content you dick, otherwise is just another fabrication on your part.. if the media quote and report what a source is saying and references that source, thats legitimate reporting!! For example when all the intelligence agencies report contact between Russia's intelligence and Trump cronies that is a legitimate story (which although denied by Thumps has turned out to be true). Now they ban media that is unflattering, what a p1ss weak fart is this administration, say nice things or we will ban you. That's the first step to a dictatorship, silence the media unless they sing your praise. Talk about LAME!! Get your head out the past you twit, the Obama, Hillary story is dead, no one gives a shit, try look at what is happening now, take off your rose coloured glasses!!!!

Ok you DICK, it is NOT fabrication and you know it. You dick. You can SEE the publication, agency, and content if you actually CHECK THE LINKS, which you obviously did not. Shows me what bias you are coming from. You wouldn't check out any links no matter what link I posted.
There was NOT contact between Russia and Trump, get it through your thick skull. There was never proof of it. There are STILL Obama holdovers in these government agencies who have not left yet, and THEY are the ones lying and spreading rumors about what happened this last election. It is called LYING. These Obama holdovers will eventually leave, but many of them are going to have to be dragged out kicking and screaming. I'm looking forward to the day every single one of the holdovers are finally gone for good. Tillerson will kick out the Obama people in the State Department, and Sessions will do the same for the Justice Dept. They don't want to leave, but they will have to.
The Obama story is NOT dead yet, simply because of the way that his administration affected the country and the destruction he caused. This is the recent past, but his policies are STILL affecting us and that needs to be corrected. So take off YOUR rose colored glasses.
As far as banning parts of the media goes, well think of it this way. Would you like it if individuals in the press (or anywhere else for that matter) was lying about you all the time, spreading rumors about you, reporting myths and fiction as FACT, always treating you with disdain and never respecting you? NO you wouldn't. Unless you really enjoy pain. Would you really want to talk to your ENEMIES EVERY single day? No. If the tables were turned on you, you wouldn't like it at all. I could understand why they banned certain parts of the media, and certain agencies. You would too. And they didn't ban EVERYONE in the media, just certain individuals.
This bathroom issue has really been overblown. Why is this such a BIG issue all of a sudden now? What were people who wanted to use certain bathrooms doing in the 1970s, 80s, or 90s? Whatever it was they did then, they can just go back to doing now. Suddenly it's a big issue in 2016 and 2017.

Ok you DICK, it is NOT fabrication and you know it. You dick. You can SEE the publication, agency, and content if you actually CHECK THE LINKS, which you obviously did not. Shows me what bias you are coming from. You wouldn't check out any links no matter what link I posted.
There was NOT contact between Russia and Trump, get it through your thick skull. There was never proof of it. There are STILL Obama holdovers in these government agencies who have not left yet, and THEY are the ones lying and spreading rumors about what happened this last election. It is called LYING. These Obama holdovers will eventually leave, but many of them are going to have to be dragged out kicking and screaming. I'm looking forward to the day every single one of the holdovers are finally gone for good. Tillerson will kick out the Obama people in the State Department, and Sessions will do the same for the Justice Dept. They don't want to leave, but they will have to.
The Obama story is NOT dead yet, simply because of the way that his administration affected the country and the destruction he caused. This is the recent past, but his policies are STILL affecting us and that needs to be corrected. So take off YOUR rose colored glasses.
As far as banning parts of the media goes, well think of it this way. Would you like it if individuals in the press (or anywhere else for that matter) was lying about you all the time, spreading rumors about you, reporting myths and fiction as FACT, always treating you with disdain and never respecting you? NO you wouldn't. Unless you really enjoy pain. Would you really want to talk to your ENEMIES EVERY single day? No. If the tables were turned on you, you wouldn't like it at all. I could understand why they banned certain parts of the media, and certain agencies. You would too. And they didn't ban EVERYONE in the media, just certain individuals.
This bathroom issue has really been overblown. Why is this such a BIG issue all of a sudden now? What were people who wanted to use certain bathrooms doing in the 1970s, 80s, or 90s? Whatever it was they did then, they can just go back to doing now. Suddenly it's a big issue in 2016 and 2017.


you have no links you are full of shit! No contact, you k1d me! Then why did Flynn resign?

I have links that you never check out. And I'm full of common sense. I can list links all day long and you will never read them. All you have to do is read what i posted just a few posts ago, but I know you won't do that.
There was NO contact, and Flynn's resignation had nothing to do with any Russian connections. Flynn did something wrong dealing with Trump's right-hand man, Mike Pence, and that is a big NO NO. You do Pence wrong, and you are gone and should expect to be fired. So he was.

Those links lead to stories that are persons opinions and to be honest the 1st opinion is by a guy that makes Al Capone seem an upstanding honest law abiding citizen. Conrad Black was investigated for fraud of millions of dollars.

Those links lead to stories that are persons opinions and to be honest the 1st opinion is by a guy that makes Al Capone seem an upstanding honest law abiding citizen. Conrad Black was investigated for fraud of millions of dollars.


Now you made yourself a dick too. You forgot to put on that pink glasses Spurt obviously wears when searching for facts.
Would be interresting when he delievers first facts. Until now it was just statements and opinions and Spurt blabla he considered to be facts. And if it is contra Dump it is faked news.
Let's make a bet on his reply : we are idiots again and we can't read those fabulos links he sent as proof for Trumps honesty and loyality to the truth.
Ohh - and he will explain us again that Obama is a Dictator.

I have links that you never check out. And I'm full of common sense. I can list links all day long and you will never read them. All you have to do is read what i posted just a few posts ago, but I know you won't do that.
There was NO contact, and Flynn's resignation had nothing to do with any Russian connections. Flynn did something wrong dealing with Trump's right-hand man, Mike Pence, and that is a big NO NO. You do Pence wrong, and you are gone and should expect to be fired. So he was.



Read some facts ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flynn-episode-darkens-the-cloud-of-russia-that-hangs-over-tr ump-administration/2017/02/14/bc8d752a-f2db-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.bd30fbf7cd9c You are dealing with the masters of SPIN/FAKE NEWS they just hate the media calling them out. Here are the first 100 Thump Administration Lies source http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/donald-trump-administration-lies-100_us_58ac7a0fe4b02a1e7dac3 ca6:

White House press secretary Sean Spicer falsely claimed the crowd on the National Mall was “largest audience to ever witness an inauguration.” (Jan. 21)

Trump falsely claimed that the crowd for his swearing-in stretched down the National Mall to the Washington Monument and totaled more than 1 million people. (Jan. 21)

As Trump fondly recalled his Inauguration Day, he said it stopped raining “immediately” when he began his speech. A light rain continued to fall throughout the address. (Jan. 21)

During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump claimed the media made up his feud with the agency. In fact, he started it by comparing the intelligence community to “Nazi Germany.” (Jan. 21)

During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump repeated the claim that he “didn’t want to go into Iraq.” He told Howard Stern in 2002 that he supported the Iraq War. (Jan. 21)

During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump said he had the “all-time record in the history of Time Magazine. … I’ve been on it for 15 times this year.” Trump had been featured on the magazine a total of 11 times. (Jan. 21)

Trump claimed that his inauguration drew 11 million more viewers than Barack Obama’s in 2013. It didn’t, and viewership for Obama’s first inauguration, in 2009, was even higher. (Jan. 22)

Spicer said during his first press briefing that there has been a “dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years.” This is false. (Jan. 23)

While pushing back against the notion of a rift between the CIA and Trump, Spicer claimed the president had received a “five-minute standing ovation” at the agency’s headquarters. He did not. The attendees were also never asked to sit down. (Jan. 23)

Spicer claimed that “tens of millions of people” watched the inauguration online. In fact, about 4.6 million did. (Jan. 23)

Trump told CBN News that 84 percent Cuban-Americans voted for him. It’s not clear where Trump got that number. According to the Pew Research Center, 54 percent of Cuban-Americans in Florida voted for him. (Jan. 23)

While meeting with congressional leaders, Trump repeated a debunked claim that he only lost the national popular vote because of widespread voter fraud. (Jan. 24)

In remarks with business leaders at the White House, Trump said, “I’m a very big person when it comes to the environment. I have received awards on the environment.” There is no evidence that Trump has received such awards. (Jan. 24)

In signing an executive memo ordering the construction of the Keystone pipeline, Trump said the project would create 28,000 construction jobs. According to The Washington Post Fact Checker, the pipeline would create an estimated 16,000 jobs, most of which are not construction jobs. (Jan. 25)

Spicer said in a press briefing that Trump received more electoral votes than any Republican since Ronald Reagan. George H.W. Bush won 426 electoral votes in 1988, more than Trump’s 304. (Jan. 24)

In remarks he gave at the Homeland Security Department, Trump said Immigration and Customs Enforcement and border patrol agents “unanimously endorsed me for president.” That’s not true. (Jan. 25)

Spicer said during a press briefing that a draft executive order on CIA prisons was not a “White House document.” Citing three administration officials, The New York Times reported that the White House had circulated the draft order among national security staff members. (Jan. 25)

In an interview with ABC, Trump again claimed he “had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches.” False. (Jan. 25)

Trump claimed during an interview with ABC that the applause he received at CIA headquarters “was the biggest standing ovation since Peyton Manning had won the Super Bowl.” It wasn’t even a standing ovation. (Jan. 25)

In an interview with ABC, Trump attacked the Affordable Care Act and said there are “millions of people that now aren’t insured anymore.” Twenty million people have gained health coverage because of the law so far. The estimated 2 million people who did not qualify under the law received waivers that kept the plans going until the end of 2017. (Jan. 25)

At the GOP retreat in Philadelphia, Trump claimed he and the president of Mexico “agreed” to cancel their scheduled meeting. Enrique Peña Nieto said he had decided to cancel it. (Jan. 26)

At the GOP retreat in Philadelphia, Trump said the national homicide rate was “horribly increasing.” It is down significantly. (Jan. 26)

On Twitter, Trump repeated his false claim that 3 million votes were illegal during the election. (Jan. 27)

In an interview on “Good Morning America,” Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said Tiffany Trump, the president’s daughter, had told her she was “not registered to vote in two states.” A local election official confirmed to NBC News twice that the younger Trump indeed was. (Jan. 27)

Trump said he predicted the so-called “Brexit” when he was in Scotland the day before the vote. He was actually there the day after the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union. (Jan. 27)

Trump claimed The New York Times lost subscribers “because their readers even like me.” The Times experienced a sharp uptick in subscribers after Election Day. (Jan. 27)

Trump claimed two people were fatally shot in Chicago during Obama’s last speech as president. That didn’t happen. (Jan. 27)

Trump claimed that under previous administrations, “if you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible.” In fact, almost as many Christian refugees were admitted to the U.S. as Muslim refugees in fiscal year 2016. (Jan. 27)

Trump defended the swiftness of his immigration order on the grounds that terrorists would have rushed into the country if he had given the world a week’s notice. Even if terrorists wanted to infiltrate the refugee program or the visa program, they would have had to wait months or even years while being vetted to get into the country. (Jan. 30)

The White House maintained that Trump’s immigration order did not apply to green card holders and that was “the guidance from the beginning.” Initially, the White House said the order did include green card holders. (Jan. 30)

Trump said his immigration order was “similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months.” Obama’s policy slowed resettlement of refugees from Iraq, but did not keep them from entering the country. Moreover, it flagged the seven countries included in Trump’s order as places the U.S. considered dangerous to visit. (Jan. 30)

Spicer said that “by and large,” Trump has been “praised” for his statement commemorating the Holocaust. Every major Jewish organization, including the Republican Jewish Coalition, criticized it for omitting any specific references to the Jewish people or anti-Semitism. (Jan. 30)

A Trump administration official called the implementation of Trump’s travel ban a “massive success story.” Not true ― young ch1ldren, elderly people and U.S. green card holders were detained for hours. Some were deported upon landing in the U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) even criticized the rollout as “confusing.” (Jan. 30)

Spicer equated White House adviser Steve Bannon’s appointment to the National Security Council Principals Committee with Obama adviser David Axelrod attending meetings pertaining to foreign policy. Axelrod, however, never sat on the Principals Committee. (Jan. 30)

Spicer said people would have “flooded” into the country with advance notice of Trump’s immigration order. Not true. (Jan. 30)

Spicer insisted that only 109 travelers were detained because of Trump’s immigration order. More than 1,000 legal permanent residents had to get waivers before entering the U.S. An estimated 90,000 people in total were affected by the ban. (Jan. 30)

Trump tweeted the false claim that “only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning.” (Jan. 30)

Trump took credit for cutting $600 million from the F-35 program. But Lockheed Martin already had planned for the cost reductions for the next generation fighter plane. (Jan. 31)

Trump accused China of manipulating its currency by playing “the money market. They play the devaluation market, and we sit there like a bunch of dummies.” According to The Washington Post, the United States is no longer being hurt by China’s currency manipulation, and China is no longer devaluing its currency. (Jan. 31)

In defending the GOP’s blockade of Merrick Garland, Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Spicer said no president had ever nominated a justice “so late” in his term. It previously happened three times. (Jan. 31)

Spicer repeatedly insisted during a press conference that Trump’s executive order on immigration was “not a ban.” During a Q&A event the night before, however, Spicer himself referred to the order as a “ban.” So did the president. (Jan. 31)

White House officials denied reports that Trump told Peña Nieto that U.S. forces would handle the “bad hombres down there” if the Mexican authorities don’t. It confirmed the conversation the next day, maintaining the remark was meant to be “lighthearted.” (Jan. 31)

Trump claimed that Delta, protesters and the tears of Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) were to blame for the problems over his travel ban. In fact, his administration was widely considered to blame for problems associated with its rollout. (Jan. 31)

Trump said the Obama administration “agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia.” The deal actually involved 1,250 refugees. (Feb. 1)

Trump said the U.S. “has the most generous immigration system in the world.” Not really. (Feb. 2)

Trump said the U.S. was giving Iran $150 billion for “nothing” under the Iranian nuclear deal. The money was already Iran’s to begin with, and the deal blocks Iran from building a nuclear bomb. (Feb. 2)

Spicer called a U.S. raid in Yemen “very, very well thought out and executed effort” and described it as a “successful operation by all standards.” U.S. military officials told Reuters the operation was approved “without sufficient intelligence, ground support, or adequate backup preparations.” (Feb. 2)

Spicer said that Iran had attacked a U.S. naval vessel, as part of his argument defending the administration’s bellicose announcement that Iran is “on notice.” In fact, a suspected Houthi rebel ship attacked a Saudi vessel. (Feb. 2)

In his meeting with union leaders at the White House, Trump claimed he won union households. He actually only won white union households. (Feb. 2)

Conway cited the “Bowling Green massacre” to defend Trump’s travel ban. It never happened. (Feb. 3)

Conway said citing the nonexistent “Bowling Green massacre” to defend Trump’s immigration order was an accidental “slip.” But she had mentioned it twice prior to that interview. (Feb. 3)

Trump approvingly shared a story on his official Facebook page which claimed that Kuwait issued a visa ban for five Muslim-majority countries. Kuwait issued a statement categorically denying it. (Feb. 3)

Trump claimed people are “pouring in” after his immigration order was temporarily suspended. Travelers and refugees cannot simply rush into the U.S. without extensive and lengthy vetting. (Feb. 5)

After a judge halted his immigration ban, Trump claimed that “anyone, even with bad intentions, can now come into the U.S.” Not true. (Feb. 5)

Spicer said nationwide protests of Trump are not like protests the tea party held, and called them “a very paid AstroTurf-type movement.” Although Democrats have capitalized on the backlash against Trump by organizing, the massive rallies across dozens of cities across the country ― which in some cases have been spontaneous ― suggests they are part of an organic phenomenon. (Feb. 6)

During an interview with Fox News before the Super Bowl, Trump repeated his debunked claim of widespread voter fraud during the presidential election. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. Republican and Democratic state officials have said so, as have Trump’s own campaign attorneys. (Feb. 6)

During an interview with Fox News before the Super Bowl, Trump repeated his false claim that he has “been against the war in Iraq from the beginning.” (Feb. 6)

Conway said she would not appear on CNN’s “State of the Union” because of “family” reasons. CNN, however, said the White House offered Conway as an alternative to Vice President Mike Pence and that the network had “passed” because of concerns about her “credibility.” (Feb. 6)

Spicer claimed CNN “retracted” its explanation of why it declined to take Conway for a Sunday show appearance. CNN said it never did so. (Feb. 6)

Trump cited attacks in Boston, Paris, Orlando, Florida, and Nice, France, as examples of terrorism the media has not covered adequately. “In many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it,” he said at CENTCOM. Those attacks garnered wall-to-wall television coverage, as well as thousands of news articles in print and online. (Feb. 6)

The White House released a more expansive list of terrorist attacks it believed “did not receive adequate attention from Western media sources.” Again, the list includes attacks that were widely covered by the media. (Feb. 6)

Trump said sanctuary cities “breed crime.” FBI data indicates that crime in sanctuary cities is generally lower than in nonsanctuary cities. (Feb. 6)

Trump claimed The New York Times was “f0rced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win.” The paper has not issued such an apology. (Feb. 6)

Trump claimed the m_rder rate is the highest it’s been in 47 years. The m_rder rate rose 10.8 percent across the United States in 2015, but it’s far lower than it was 30 to 40 years ago. (Feb. 7)

Spicer explained that the delay in repealing Obamacare was a result of the White House wanting to work with Congress. Unlike during the Obama administration, he asserted, the legislature ― not the White House ― was taking the lead on health care. Various congressional committees worked on drafting multiple versions of the bill that would become the Affordable Care Act ― a lengthy process that took over a year. (Feb. 7)

Trump accused Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) of misrepresenting “what Judge Neil Gorsuch told him” in response to the president’s attacks against the judiciary. Gorsuch called Trump’s tweets attacking federal judges “demoralizing.” A spokesman for Gorsuch confirmed the judge’s remarks. (Feb. 9)

Trump has repeatedly said he doesn’t watch CNN. But he had to in order to see and offer and opinion on the network’s interview with Blumenthal. (Feb. 9)

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn has said that phone calls he made to Russia prior to Trump’s inauguration were not related to sanctions. According to a Washington Post report, however, Flynn held private discussions with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, before Trump took office, suggesting that sanctions against Moscow would be eased by the incoming administration. (Feb. 9)

Trump took credit for Ford’s decision not to open an auto factory in Mexico and instead expand its Michigan plant. The company said Trump was not responsible for its decision. (Feb. 9)

Trump told a room full of politicians that “thousands” of “illegal” voters had been driven into New Hampshire to cast ballots. There is no evidence of such a claim. (Feb. 11)

During an interview with ABC’s “This Week,” White House senior policy aide Stephen Miller falsely said the “issue of busing voters into New Hampshire is widely known by anyone who’s worked in New Hampshire politics.” Again, not true. (Feb. 11)

Miller cited the “astonishing” statistic that 14 percent of noncitizens are registered to vote. The study the stat is based on has been highly contested. (Feb. 11)

Trump said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was “cut off” on CNN for “using the term fake news the describe the network.” The senator was joking and he was not cut off. (Feb. 12)

Trump accused the media of refusing to report on “big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road” in Florida. There were a few supporters, but they were vastly outnumbered by hundreds of protesters. (Feb. 12)

White House officials told reporters that Flynn decided on his own to resign. However, Spicer said during a press briefing that the president asked Flynn to resign. (Feb. 13)

Trump denied in a January interview that he or anyone on his campaign had any contact with Russia prior to the election. However, The New York Times and CNN both reported that Trump campaign officials and associates “had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials” before Nov. 8. (Feb. 15)

Spicer denied in a daily briefing that anyone on the Trump campaign had had any contact with Russian officials. (Feb. 15)

Trump complained he “inherited a mess” upon being elected to office. The stock market is experiencing record highs, the economy is stable and growing, and unemployment is low. (Feb. 16)

Trump disputed the notion that his administration is experiencing turmoil, telling reporters it is working like a “fine-tuned machine.” His poorly executed travel ban has been suspended by the courts, a Cabinet nominee was f0rced to withdraw his nomination, and Trump’s national security adviser resigned after less than four weeks on the job. (Feb. 16)

Trump said his 306 Electoral College votes was the biggest electoral votes victory since Ronald Reagan. Obama got 332 votes in 2012. (Feb. 16)

Trump said his first weeks in office “represented an unprecedented month of action.” Obama accomplished much more during his first weeks in office. (Feb. 16)

Defending himself from charges of hypocrisy on the matter of leaks ― which he frequently celebrated when they pertained to his campaign opposition but now denounces ― Trump said that WikiLeaks does not publicize “classified information.” It does, often anonymously. (Feb. 16)

Trump repeated his claim that Hillary Clinton gave 20 percent of American uranium to the Russians in a deal during her tenure as secretary of state. Not true. (Feb. 16)

Trump said drugs are “becoming cheaper than a candy bar.” They are not. (Feb. 16)

Trump said his administration had a “very smooth rollout of the travel ban.” His immigration caused chaos at the nation’s airports and has been suspended by the courts. (Feb. 16)

Trump said the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is in “chaos” and “turmoil.” It is not. (Feb. 16)

Flynn lied to FBI investigators in a Jan. 24 interview about whether he discussed sanctions with Russian officials prior to Trump’s inauguration, according to The Washington Post. (Feb. 16)

Trump falsely suggested at a Florida rally that Sweden had suffered a terror attack the night before his speech. It had not, and Trump was likely referring to a Fox News segment on crime in Sweden. (Feb. 18)

During his Florida rally, Trump repeated his false claim that the United States has already let in thousands of people who “there was no way to vet.” Refugees undergo the most rigorous vetting process of any immigrants admitted to the United States, often waiting upwards of two years to be cleared for entry. (Feb. 18)

White House chief of staff Reince Priebus said in a “Fox News Sunday” interview that Trump “has accomplished more in the first 30 days than people can remember.” Obama accomplished much more during his first weeks in office. (Feb. 19)

Trump said during his campaign that he would only play golf with heads of state and business leaders, not friends and celebrities like Obama did. Trump has golfed with world leaders like Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Most recently, however, he hit the links with golf pro Rory McIlroy, International Sports Management’s Nick Mullen and his friend Rich Levine. (Feb. 19)

A White House spokesperson told reporters that Trump only played a “couple” of holes at his golf resort in Florida. A day later, as reports came out saying the president had played 18 holes with Mcllroy, the White House admitted he played “longer.” (Feb. 19)

Trump said the media is “trying to say large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!” Sweden’s crime rate has fallen in recent years, and experts there do not think its immigration policies are linked to crime. (Feb. 20)

Spicer said Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) asked for a meeting with Trump at the White House. John Weaver, a former campaign aide of the governor, said the president asked for the meeting. (Feb. 21)

Vice President Mike Pence called Obamacare a “job k1ller.” Overall, job growth has been steady since it was signed into law. And the number of unwilling part-time jobs has also gone down, contrary to GOP claims. (Feb. 22)

Trump claimed that he negotiated $1 billion in savings to develop two new Boeing Co. jets to serve as the next Air Force One. The Air Force can’t account for that number. (Feb. 22)

During a meeting with the nation’s CEOs at the White House, Trump claimed his new economic adviser Gary Cohn “paid $200 million in tax” to take a job at the White House. Cohn didn’t have to pay taxes, he had to sell more than $200 million of Goldman Sachs stock. (Feb. 23)

Trump claimed there were “six blocks” worth of people waiting to get into the Conservative Political Action Conference to see him. People filled only three overflow rooms. (Feb. 24)

At CPAC, Trump said that Obamacare covers “very few people.” Nearly 20 million people have gotten health insurance under the law. (Feb. 24)

At CPAC, Trump said companies like Intel were making business investments in the United States because of his election. The company planned their new investments before the election. (Feb. 24)

You really don't have to dig too hard, the man is a PROLIFIC LIAR!

Spoken like a true socialist, ALb. You and others have also posted links that are opinions, not proven facts. Yes, Obama IS a socialist dictator, and always acted as one. Do you deny it? It has always been plain for everyone to see. The Founders NEVER wanted a dictator, they wanted a President who acts in the true capacity as an executive.
Shortly after Clinton's term and W. Bush's term ended, the National Review published articles accurately assessing their performance while in office. They were right on the money each time. So I thought it would make sense to find the National Review's assessment of the term that just ended and write the links from that. EVERYTHING that is written in BOTH articles is true and accurate. They are correct, Obama's "legacy" is a gigantic failure. Do you deny that? Charges against Black were dropped btw. But whatever you think of Black, everything in his article is accurate.
Since Trump was sworn in, alien crossings at the border have dropped by FIFTY percent. You never hear that reported in the news but it's the truth. Our national debt has diminished by BILLIONS already, and Trump has only been in office for over one month. Obama ADDED greatly to the deficit and the debt because he wants us to be in debt indefinitely. Trump is already diminishing the debt, and I hope that one day we can be in the black instead of the red, for a change.
Preemptive strike against Derek. Alb, mini, halfway, Kert, you really need to watch what you say and HOW you say it. Stop making this thread into a circus.
Just a preemptive strike i thought to add.